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by Marshall Grice
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:12 am
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

This stuff isn't hard, and I know folks want to do a good job, but if a long standing rule is suddenly overturned, there should be NO QUESTION as to why and a whole lot of open debate. Derek I feel like you are under estimating the difficulty of having an open debate with thousands of people (autoc...
by Marshall Grice
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

I don’t understand the “transparency” angle you guys have focused on. you all have stated the exact reasoning the SEB made its decicion in your arguments but still claim you don’t see the reasoning. I have personally spoon fed you the rationale in this thread and still you claim there is no transpar...
by Marshall Grice
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

If building an engine, you can always work with your builder to make sure the components are rules compliant prior to assembly. Unfortunately, many of us in Street and Street Touring don't have that same level of connection with our local gas stations and refineries. :roll: We can only buy pump 91o...
by Marshall Grice
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

June 2017 Fastrack Street and ST #21094 Octane Rating The following revised version of a previously published rule change proposal is provided by the SEB for member review and comment. Add to the end of the first sentence of 3.6.A as follows: “Street and Street Touring category vehicles will use fu...
by Marshall Grice
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:16 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

Seriously? $5000 kit just to make sure you fuel is compliant....omg lol Please tell me the SEB worked out a member discount rate? Lol Seriously though, since things are self policed, is there a cost effective procedure drafted by the SEB for Street and ST competitors? I would like to think these ru...
by Marshall Grice
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

There is this thing called the fastrack. You guys should try reading it sometime. It has all of the information I posted about the fuel rule changes in it.
by Marshall Grice
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

at least one can measure octane. I think you can only do that with a lab, correct? Is there any home garage use tool that can be reliably used to help drivers check if their own fuel is compliant? My chemistry knowledge is limited on this, so if there are any such tool recommendations, please share...
by Marshall Grice
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

I should also clarify that by saying “driving down participation” I don’t mean that there is negative participation trend. I mean that it is a downward pressure on growth. Just because ST is trending upwards doesn’t mean it couldn’t be trending more upwards. When the goal is to manage the performan...
by Marshall Grice
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

I should also clarify that by saying “driving down participation” I don’t mean that there is negative participation trend. I mean that it is a downward pressure on growth. Just because ST is trending upwards doesn’t mean it couldn’t be trending more upwards. When the goal is to manage the performanc...
by Marshall Grice
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

The rationale for the change is specifically to render the unlimited boost allowance basically useless to limit how many cars got excluded from ST for being too powerful.

Not to mention federally approved it no where near enforceable, at least one can measure octane.
by Marshall Grice
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

ST is popular because it requires cheap daily driveable tires. Applying the same logic to stock (now street) resulted in a reversal of a huge decline in participation. Everyone loved that change also. (<— sarcasm) 100 octane is the fuel equivalent of hoosiers. Think about it. Do you think ST is popu...
by Marshall Grice
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

Sounds like you have never been to a trackday event, huh? Tell you what. I think you need to go and see who our regional motorsports competition is and what their customers are doing with their cars. Maybe by seeing it first hand, you can start to understand what we are up against to attract more d...
by Marshall Grice
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: Public Rules Discussion
Topic: Rules Proposal - Octane
Replies: 58
Views: 697

Re: Rules Proposal - Octane

But the seb said there was no advantage to 100 octane, right? I think people just want more of a safety margin against knock in the summers. ^fake news. at no point has the SEB's claim been that 100 octane is of no advantage. the claim is that performance gained from using expensive race fuel repre...
by Marshall Grice
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2018 Event Statistics
Replies: 50
Views: 2437

Re: 2018 Event Statistics

one of the dnf's in the first group was me after I spun in the finish and was backwards in the finish shoot. I decided to just exit the course rather that 5 point turn and slow down the event. I would say a large number of the dnf's were because the course was challenging, not because we all got los...
by Marshall Grice
Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:10 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2017 Event Run Time Statistics
Replies: 25
Views: 1693

Re: 2017 Event Run Time Statistics

Also, the total times of 9 to 10 hours doesn't seem right. Am I misinterpreting that number? A typical 9am to 5pm would be 8 hrs. yes you are. the total time includes a fixed 'arrival' time for morning and afternoon competitors and a 3rd 'total time' that is intended it represent the actual arrival...
by Marshall Grice
Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: Membership Poll...How long is too long?
Replies: 53
Views: 3390

Re: Membership Poll...How long is too long?

If the value is not there, people will quickly find other things to do with their Sunday and their leisure dollars. Considering the vast majority of people couldn't care less about fun runs, the value provided is greatly diminished for most. While many of our hard core people choose to stay all day...
by Marshall Grice
Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:27 am
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: Membership Poll...How long is too long?
Replies: 53
Views: 3390

Re: Membership Poll...How long is too long?

and to follow up on the original point of this thread. the entire poll is flawed. We already know that people have no problem showing up for 12 hours for an autox, they do it every saturday (of race weekend). a better metric is how many runs do you get for the amount of time you commit. It is curren...
by Marshall Grice
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:58 am
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: Membership Poll...How long is too long?
Replies: 53
Views: 3390

Re: Membership Poll...How long is too long?

the goal really isn't to pack up at noon or 1 pm. the goal is to stop running hugely inefficient events so that we can get more runs. I'd like to see us move in the direction of having a morning session and an afternoon session where everyone has the option to drive in both. it would probably requir...
by Marshall Grice
Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:31 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2017 Event Run Time Statistics
Replies: 25
Views: 1693

Re: 2017 Event Run Time Statistics

David Barrish wrote:Anthony,

Can you capture the "Average" requests when points cards holders went out of town for events?

David

Ok, I'm curious. How that relate to this topic? I feel like I'm missing something in your question.
by Marshall Grice
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:34 am
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2017 Fastracks
Replies: 13
Views: 3175

Re: 2017 Fastracks

the november fastrack is posted (link in first post). This is the one that has all of the proposals sent to the BOD for approval for next year.
by Marshall Grice
Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2017 Fastracks
Replies: 13
Views: 3175

Re: 2017 Fastracks

Brian Tilley wrote:Where can I go to see what question was asked that they are responding to?

the actually letters that are written in are kept confidential. We try to make the answers stand on their own but that doesn't always work out.
by Marshall Grice
Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:20 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: Classification for 2017 Lexus IS200T F-Sport
Replies: 4
Views: 709

Re: Classification for 2017 Lexus IS200T F-Sport

correct. Keep an eye out for a fastrack in the next couple of months that will update the classification.

of course it never hurts to send more letters. If you'd like to send one yourself by all means have at it.
by Marshall Grice
Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: Classification for 2017 Lexus IS200T F-Sport
Replies: 4
Views: 709

Re: Classification for 2017 Lexus IS200T F-Sport

for a local only classing you could run it in DStreet (fits in with other IS models), but apparently nobody has written the SEB requesting to officially class this model of car. I made a request for an official classification of it at http://sebscca.com
by Marshall Grice
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:40 pm
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: 2017 Fastracks
Replies: 13
Views: 3175

Re: 2017 Fastracks

the august fastrack is upon us.
by Marshall Grice
Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:13 am
Forum: Solo Talk
Topic: KJ's ACME Special is the AutoXandTrack July Feature Car
Replies: 3
Views: 594

Re: KJ's ACME Special is the AutoXandTrack July Feature Car

Mark DeShon wrote:"Marshall is full of ideas. Some of which are good."
LOL! ... Good read!
Mark D

truth! We won't talk about the good vs. bad ratio. hahaha

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