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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:37 pm

Gregg Hoyle wrote:
Anthony Porta wrote:
Gregg Hoyle wrote:First of all....thanks for your help!

I have a 1971 Mini Cooper
Engine changed to a larger but factory available for that year Mini.
Exhaust Header
Added wheel flares
Stock size wheels with offset to increase tire footprint width slightly
Yokohama A008 tires
Interior stripped except for (2) front seats
4 point Roll bar (2 mid points, 2 rear points)
Adjustable Coil spring replacement with ride height adjustment in place of rubber cone suspension
Front disc brakes replacing drum brakes
Rear adjustable sway bar

I think that the above would put me in Street Prepared

I want to add camber caster to the front by using negative caster arms and adjustable tie rods for caster/toe in adjustment. Would this addition put me in Street Modified?


Nationally because of the gutted interior that would put you in at least E-Prepared.
Locally you could run CST- if you put on 140 tw tires or CSM if you would like to run your current tires.


Thanks Anthony, if I add a basic interior will that put me back into Street Prepared?

Interior should be stock in Street Prepared, except for seats, seatbelts and steering wheel. Also, if you have a roll bar, it must meet these specifications:
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Gerald Judianto » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:57 am

Hey guys,

What class would a stock '15 Club miata be in? I'm thinking Streets?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Anthony Porta » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:36 pm

Gerald Judianto wrote:Hey guys,

What class would a stock '15 Club miata be in? I'm thinking Streets?


C-Street
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Gerald Judianto » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:37 pm

Anthony Porta wrote:
Gerald Judianto wrote:Hey guys,

What class would a stock '15 Club miata be in? I'm thinking Streets?


C-Street


Thanks, Anthony!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Eric Wong » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:45 pm

The Chevy Bolt EV is now allowed and classed into H Street:
https://dk1xgl0d43mu1.cloudfront.net/us ... r-Solo.pdf

However, I put 0.5" wider wheels in mine which puts me into one of the Street Touring classes.
I'm not sure, but the “Catch-all” rule for STS might work:

Sedans & Coupes NOC (non-sports-car-based; 4-seat minimum;
up to 3.1L normally-aspirated)

The displacement of my electric motor would be... zero; and maybe "normally-aspirated" can be stretched to mean "not-aspirated-at-all".

I don't mind being in an class where my car is uncompetitive (CST works for me, too). It is far more important that I preserve expensive and slippery stock tires (on stock wheels) for long trips; and eventually get extra camber to reduce sidewall wear.

I might get a NOS sticker to make my car more intimidating, too :)


Edit: asking SEB for clarification (#23449). Meanwhile, will probably be running the cheap Rikens on stock wheels in HS this coming weekend to get a baseline on how the car handles on stock form.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Matthew Corodimas » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:57 pm

Hello,

I looked at the rules but need help figuring out which class to register Laura’s M2 in. It’s stock.

Thanks.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Randy Gonzalez » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm

Hey Matt,

The doc you want is here:

https://dk1xgl0d43mu1.cloudfront.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/037/724/2017-8-25-appendix-A-automobile-classes.pdf

Search for M2 and you'll find it in B Street (page 145, under BMW heading). "M2 (except Performance Edition ZL9) (2016-17)"

If Laura's got the Performance Edition ZL9 (I don't think that's what she has but just in case) she's in A Street.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Danielle Gilbert » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:10 pm

How do I arrange the letters? I'll be in Novice - A Street.

In a line with a space:

NOV AS
AS NOV

In a line without a space:

NOVAS
ASNOV

Vertically stacked:
NOV
AS

AS
NOV

Or... ?

A picture would be very helpful. :)

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Ed T » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:15 pm

Danielle Gilbert wrote:How do I arrange the letters? I'll be in Novice - A Street.

In a line with a space:

NOV AS
AS NOV

In a line without a space:

NOVAS
ASNOV

Vertically stacked:
NOV
AS

AS
NOV

Or... ?

A picture would be very helpful. :)


Not sure if there is a hardline rule on this but usually it's:

AS
NOV

or AS NOV

Are you asking because you are getting magnets printed? Just curious.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Randy Gonzalez » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:02 pm

Ed T wrote:Are you asking because you are getting magnets printed? Just curious.


Danielle has a plastic car....magnets aren't an option! :D
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Randy Gonzalez » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 pm

To specifically answer your question: Check out the cars on our http://www.solo2.com web site for photos. You'll see some of the many ways you can approach numbers. The rules say minimum 8" tall for the numbers and 4" tall for the class. You can order nice numbers online or from a local sign shop (just remember magnets won't stick to your plastic car!). That being said, many just print large as they can bold numbers and class indications on standard 8.5x11 paper and just tape the piece of paper on the car (either blue painter's tape, or electrician's vinyl tape if your car is waxed nice and the painter's tape doesn't stick well). You can do AS NOV on one line or stack them, just make sure it's easy to read.

Since you're new with us, there's no shame in just hacking some numbers on the car with tape (I do it all the time with 2" and 3/4" vinyl electrical tape). Not the sharpest looking solution, but it works just fine in a pinch. Take your time and make them readable is all that's really important. FYI: As you pull up into the line on competition days, you'll pass by the rear of the timing trailer. They will be the first to read your car numbers. They don't have to be perfect, but if they are easily legible the timing crew will appreciate it. From there the course workers will be calling in your cone counts (although we're not going to be hitting any of there are we?)....so again, clearly readable as you blaze by the course workers is appreciated. A clean contrasting color is best. Blue painter's tape won't be a good call on your blue car! :)

Either way, as long as they're readable, we won't kick you out of line if your numbers aren't flawless or you make a protocol mistake. That being said, a sharp set of numbers sets the "I came to race" tone! :)

Ugh, with you and Danny showing up in AS with nice numbers I'm going to have to step up my game! :D
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:04 pm

In addition to 8" minimum for numbers and 4" for letters, the 8" number have to have an 1.5" stroke. Also, for me (timing) the preferred class letter pattern is NOV AS or NOVAS as that's the way it is in the computer. Indexed class (NOV) comes before regular class (AS). Therefore the hand written logs would match the printed audit sheet. Not a big deal, but it would make me happier! ;)

Oh, and talk to Jay @ http://www.jaycomvinyl.com/ for numbers, he's one of us. He does do static cling for plastic cars.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Danielle Gilbert » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:43 pm

Thanks for the tips, everyone. Check out the new look!

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At least, that's the idea. We'll see how it actually looks in practice.

Rick - Thanks. I ordered before I saw the update about Jay, but I'll definitely talk to him once this set wears out.

Randy - you're definitely going to need to step up now. C'mon... that Grand Sport wants to look *fancy*. :D

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:20 pm

Danielle Gilbert wrote:Thanks for the tips, everyone. Check out the new look!

Image

At least, that's the idea. We'll see how it actually looks in practice.

Rick - Thanks. I ordered before I saw the update about Jay, but I'll definitely talk to him once this set wears out.

Randy - you're definitely going to need to step up now. C'mon... that Grand Sport wants to look *fancy*. :D

Others please take note! This is officially Timing & Scoring approved. ;)
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Danielle Gilbert » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:48 pm

Rick Brown wrote:
Danielle Gilbert wrote:Thanks for the tips, everyone. Check out the new look!

Image

At least, that's the idea. We'll see how it actually looks in practice.

Rick - Thanks. I ordered before I saw the update about Jay, but I'll definitely talk to him once this set wears out.

Randy - you're definitely going to need to step up now. C'mon... that Grand Sport wants to look *fancy*. :D

Others please take note! This is officially Timing & Scoring approved. ;)


Sweet! Thanks! :D


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