On the page where you select your class, there are two parts, Class and PAX, for class you select Novice, which is an indexed (or PAXed) class, and for PAX you select CAM-C, which adjusts your times relative to others in the class. You can edit your registration in Motorsportreg by logging in and going to your dashboard. If you have any trouble, let me know and I can fix it for you.Juan Mauricio wrote:Hello. I'm new to this forum and autocross. I pre-registered for the 14-15 Apr practice and Championship event, and I'm really looking forward to it.
I had a question about what vehicle class I should have selected during registration. I will be driving a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE.
On the '8 Easy Steps' page of Solo2.com website, it says to determine your vehicle's class first and that 'newcomers also run in the Novice class.' Do I select one or the other, or is there a way to indicate both Novice AND my vehicle's class (I was thinking CAM-C)?
Thanks!
Juan
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Very helpful. Looks like it's corrected now. Thank you, Rick!
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If you car is mostly stock then the V8 1LE would be in AS (V6 is BS). I know the 2018 hasn't been classed yet but I don't think anyone would mind locally.Rick Brown wrote:On the page where you select your class, there are two parts, Class and PAX, for class you select Novice, which is an indexed (or PAXed) class, and for PAX you select CAM-C, which adjusts your times relative to others in the class. You can edit your registration in Motorsportreg by logging in and going to your dashboard. If you have any trouble, let me know and I can fix it for you.Juan Mauricio wrote:Hello. I'm new to this forum and autocross. I pre-registered for the 14-15 Apr practice and Championship event, and I'm really looking forward to it.
I had a question about what vehicle class I should have selected during registration. I will be driving a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE.
On the '8 Easy Steps' page of Solo2.com website, it says to determine your vehicle's class first and that 'newcomers also run in the Novice class.' Do I select one or the other, or is there a way to indicate both Novice AND my vehicle's class (I was thinking CAM-C)?
Thanks!
Juan
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Hi Reed.
Yes, mine is completely stock. I went ahead and switched to A Street.
Thanks!
Yes, mine is completely stock. I went ahead and switched to A Street.
Thanks!
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I'm new to the forum too. Will take note of the details here
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1985 VW Golf
1996 GTi VR6 motor/trans/brakes/5lug swap
LSD/HD clutch/light flywheel/close ratio R&P
aftermarket cams/intake/exhaust/chip
KW V1 coilover suspension, aftermarket swaybars/stressbars
no a/c ... no heater
Falken Azenis 205/40/16 tires
thanks!
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1996 GTi VR6 motor/trans/brakes/5lug swap
LSD/HD clutch/light flywheel/close ratio R&P
aftermarket cams/intake/exhaust/chip
KW V1 coilover suspension, aftermarket swaybars/stressbars
no a/c ... no heater
Falken Azenis 205/40/16 tires
thanks!
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SMFnathan vieau wrote:1985 VW Golf
1996 GTi VR6 motor/trans/brakes/5lug swap
LSD/HD clutch/light flywheel/close ratio R&P
aftermarket cams/intake/exhaust/chip
KW V1 coilover suspension, aftermarket swaybars/stressbars
no a/c ... no heater
Falken Azenis 205/40/16 tires
thanks!
-Nathan
Did you just bypass the heater or did you remove parts from under the dash?
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Apologies as this is a cross post. Will be signing up for the May El Toro event and need the car class info.
Driver - Novice
Car - 1992 Miata 1.6
Previous Owner set up - Cold air intake, headers, exhaust. Suspension: Coilovers
Tires: Dunlop Direzza 2
Thank you.
Lito
Driver - Novice
Car - 1992 Miata 1.6
Previous Owner set up - Cold air intake, headers, exhaust. Suspension: Coilovers
Tires: Dunlop Direzza 2
Thank you.
Lito
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As long as these clarifications are meet:lito ancheta wrote:Apologies as this is a cross post. Will be signing up for the May El Toro event and need the car class info.
Driver - Novice
Car - 1992 Miata 1.6
Previous Owner set up - Cold air intake, headers, exhaust. Suspension: Coilovers
Tires: Dunlop Direzza 2
Thank you.
Lito
Cold Air Intake - MAF untouched, and no holes have been cut to route air for the cold air intake...
Exhaust - CAT required (100 cell -minimum)
= STS
Tire STS legal...
Direzza 2...
- Direzza ZII Star Spec maybe?
- Older 140 (TW) - technically no, but as a Novice no one will likley care
- current 200 (TW) - Yes
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Hi Craig,
Yes MAF is untouched.
Catalytic intact.
Tires are Direzza z2 Star Spec
Treadwear 200
STS class it is.
Thank you.
Yes MAF is untouched.
Catalytic intact.
Tires are Direzza z2 Star Spec
Treadwear 200
STS class it is.
Thank you.
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Hey all -
Have a fun one to bring out this weekend: 2019 Hyundai Veloster N, Performance Pack.
All stock, except for RE71's on a base model 18" wheel.
Car is OE equipped with the 2.0 turbo, 275HP, 6-spd manual, FWD, eLSD, active suspension (strut front, multilink rear).
I expect it to eventually get classed in G Street, as it's closest in performance (a little over) the best-equipped VW GTI's, but not quite as fast as the new Civic Type R (D Street) or Golf R / Focus RS.
For the time being - GS, or take the Hyundai-NOC in HS?
Honestly, not after points - we're running the car in multiple events like this to test for any potential issues that didn't show up early in proto stage, and work out setup combinations for different uses.
Looking forward to meeting everyone Sunday @ El Toro!
Have a fun one to bring out this weekend: 2019 Hyundai Veloster N, Performance Pack.
All stock, except for RE71's on a base model 18" wheel.
Car is OE equipped with the 2.0 turbo, 275HP, 6-spd manual, FWD, eLSD, active suspension (strut front, multilink rear).
I expect it to eventually get classed in G Street, as it's closest in performance (a little over) the best-equipped VW GTI's, but not quite as fast as the new Civic Type R (D Street) or Golf R / Focus RS.
For the time being - GS, or take the Hyundai-NOC in HS?
Honestly, not after points - we're running the car in multiple events like this to test for any potential issues that didn't show up early in proto stage, and work out setup combinations for different uses.
Looking forward to meeting everyone Sunday @ El Toro!
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Because it's not yet classed your best bet is just to run CST. There are only a few GS drivers signed up for Sunday so you could run with them as long as they're OK with it.Matt Trainham wrote:Hey all -
Have a fun one to bring out this weekend: 2019 Hyundai Veloster N, Performance Pack.
All stock, except for RE71's on a base model 18" wheel.
Car is OE equipped with the 2.0 turbo, 275HP, 6-spd manual, FWD, eLSD, active suspension (strut front, multilink rear).
I expect it to eventually get classed in G Street, as it's closest in performance (a little over) the best-equipped VW GTI's, but not quite as fast as the new Civic Type R (D Street) or Golf R / Focus RS.
For the time being - GS, or take the Hyundai-NOC in HS?
Honestly, not after points - we're running the car in multiple events like this to test for any potential issues that didn't show up early in proto stage, and work out setup combinations for different uses.
Looking forward to meeting everyone Sunday @ El Toro!
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G-Street would be safe start as the 2017 Veloster Turbo Rally Edition is also there.Matt Trainham wrote:Hey all -
Have a fun one to bring out this weekend: 2019 Hyundai Veloster N, Performance Pack.
All stock, except for RE71's on a base model 18" wheel.
Car is OE equipped with the 2.0 turbo, 275HP, 6-spd manual, FWD, eLSD, active suspension (strut front, multilink rear).
I expect it to eventually get classed in G Street, as it's closest in performance (a little over) the best-equipped VW GTI's, but not quite as fast as the new Civic Type R (D Street) or Golf R / Focus RS.
For the time being - GS, or take the Hyundai-NOC in HS?
Honestly, not after points - we're running the car in multiple events like this to test for any potential issues that didn't show up early in proto stage, and work out setup combinations for different uses.
Looking forward to meeting everyone Sunday @ El Toro!
If you do plan to consistently autocross the car, you might want to shoot a quick letter to request classing http://www.sebscca.com
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Thanks guys - registered for GS, looking forward to Sunday and seeing how the car does (and knocking the cobwebs off myself).
Will follow up on a classing request, too - thanks Sean!
Will follow up on a classing request, too - thanks Sean!
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Hey guys. Name is Paul, nice to meet you all. I had my first event but signed up as a novice.
I'm signing up for the June 9-10th in Del Toro at Irvine, but i'm not sure what to class my car.
Both cars are same same but different and I'd like to take both out to different events.
First is a 2000 Mitsubishi Mirage
-Bone stock 4g93 1.8 NA motor (so slow T_T )
Only "engine" modification would be a Mishimoto Radiator I intalled for better cooling
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Suspension
Stock shocks on some H&R lowering springs.
Stock front & rear sway bars
Front and rear strut bars
Stock brakes
15x7.5 on 205/50 Federal RS-RR
Other car is a 1997 Mitsubishi Mirage
4g64 2.4 engine swap. The block/head is stock.
Koyo Radiator
DIY CAI intake
-10 an fitting/catch can
Header/ exhaust
-Suspension
BC Racing coilovers
Front and rear strut bars
Factory front sway bar, aftermarket rear sway bar
Brakes
-eclipse twin pot front calipers, and matching rotors.
Wheels are 15x7.5 205/50 Federal RS-RR
Thanks for the help
EDIT: was reading through the rulebook. Saw the Mirage listed under HS class? Are mine too modified to be in this?
I'm signing up for the June 9-10th in Del Toro at Irvine, but i'm not sure what to class my car.
Both cars are same same but different and I'd like to take both out to different events.
First is a 2000 Mitsubishi Mirage
-Bone stock 4g93 1.8 NA motor (so slow T_T )
Only "engine" modification would be a Mishimoto Radiator I intalled for better cooling
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Suspension
Stock shocks on some H&R lowering springs.
Stock front & rear sway bars
Front and rear strut bars
Stock brakes
15x7.5 on 205/50 Federal RS-RR
Other car is a 1997 Mitsubishi Mirage
4g64 2.4 engine swap. The block/head is stock.
Koyo Radiator
DIY CAI intake
-10 an fitting/catch can
Header/ exhaust
-Suspension
BC Racing coilovers
Front and rear strut bars
Factory front sway bar, aftermarket rear sway bar
Brakes
-eclipse twin pot front calipers, and matching rotors.
Wheels are 15x7.5 205/50 Federal RS-RR
Thanks for the help
EDIT: was reading through the rulebook. Saw the Mirage listed under HS class? Are mine too modified to be in this?
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The radiator, lowering springs, and strut bars put you into the Street Touring category. I think it falls under the "Not Otherwise Classed" section of the STS classPaul Osorio wrote: First is a 2000 Mitsubishi Mirage
-Bone stock 4g93 1.8 NA motor (so slow T_T )
Only "engine" modification would be a Mishimoto Radiator I intalled for better cooling
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Suspension
Stock shocks on some H&R lowering springs.
Stock front & rear sway bars
Front and rear strut bars
Stock brakes
15x7.5 on 205/50 Federal RS-RR
“Catch-all”: Sedans & Coupes NOC (nonsports-car-based; 4-seat minimum; up to 3.1L normally-aspirated)
This assumes the radiator meets the requirements listed in 14.10.L (equivalent or larger/heavier than stock) https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules
The engine swap in this one puts you up into Street Modified. Generally, Front wheel drive cars go to SMF, 4+ seat cars go into SM and 2 seat cars go into SSM.Paul Osorio wrote: Other car is a 1997 Mitsubishi Mirage
4g64 2.4 engine swap. The block/head is stock.
Koyo Radiator
DIY CAI intake
-10 an fitting/catch can
Header/ exhaust
-Suspension
BC Racing coilovers
Front and rear strut bars
Factory front sway bar, aftermarket rear sway bar
Brakes
-eclipse twin pot front calipers, and matching rotors.
Wheels are 15x7.5 205/50 Federal RS-RR
Locally, CST "California Street Touring" is always a good catch all class where you can have fun.
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Paul,
Based on the mods you performed, neither technically belong in Street. Your safest bet from a classing standpoint is to run in CST, but don't expect to come out on the podium there as the competitors can be quite fast.
Your other option may be STS, under the catch-all in the rules. The car with the swapped engine didn't have that exact model of engine in it originally, correct? So it's not legal there. Technically it'd be Street Modified, but CST would be a better option for you. Alternatively you could talk with the STS crowd and see if they're okay with you running with them.
Here's the STS catch-all verbiage in the 2018 rule book, available on the SCCA website if you scroll down the page here - https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules:
“Catch-all”:
Sedans & Coupes NOC (non- sports-car-based; 4-seat minimum; up to 3.1L normally-aspirated)
Mike
Based on the mods you performed, neither technically belong in Street. Your safest bet from a classing standpoint is to run in CST, but don't expect to come out on the podium there as the competitors can be quite fast.
Your other option may be STS, under the catch-all in the rules. The car with the swapped engine didn't have that exact model of engine in it originally, correct? So it's not legal there. Technically it'd be Street Modified, but CST would be a better option for you. Alternatively you could talk with the STS crowd and see if they're okay with you running with them.
Here's the STS catch-all verbiage in the 2018 rule book, available on the SCCA website if you scroll down the page here - https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules:
“Catch-all”:
Sedans & Coupes NOC (non- sports-car-based; 4-seat minimum; up to 3.1L normally-aspirated)
Mike
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STS crowd is super chill and wont care (I'm still proof of that lol). Given that myself and the Mazdaspeed3 is in the same class due to STF being phased out, it would be some friendly competition among ourselves. Glad you're coming back Paul. Try not to follow the rabbit too far into the rabbit hole ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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One last question. When does one stop signing up as novice? Is it after your first event or??
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Novice is optional. You don't have to run there at all. Kinda depends on where you are at when you first start. If you are winning, there is a year end award and it only takes 6 events instead of 10+ for regular classes.Paul Osorio wrote: One last question. When does one stop signing up as novice? Is it after your first event or??
NOVICE (NOV) and NOVICE LADIES (NOVL)
A. Purpose of this class: To encourage new members/competitors to participate in autocross
and be introduced into the community in a class structured for their needs. Also, to allow
them to sharpen their skills without being discouraged by “getting their doors blown off”
by more experienced drivers.
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Gotcha. ThanksRick Brown wrote:Novice is optional. You don't have to run there at all. Kinda depends on where you are at when you first start. If you are winning, there is a year end award and it only takes 6 events instead of 10+ for regular classes.Paul Osorio wrote: One last question. When does one stop signing up as novice? Is it after your first event or??
NOVICE (NOV) and NOVICE LADIES (NOVL)
A. Purpose of this class: To encourage new members/competitors to participate in autocross
and be introduced into the community in a class structured for their needs. Also, to allow
them to sharpen their skills without being discouraged by “getting their doors blown off”
by more experienced drivers.
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Hello,
This is my first event. I'm not sure if it's open to novice drivers, but I'm looking to attend and register for the weekend of July 21/22 at El Toro.
I need help in figuring out what class my car would fall under if I am able to attend. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I would fall under the D Street class (DS).
The car is a 13' Subaru BRZ. Everything is stock except for these modifications.
Tires: Michelin PSS (215/45R17)
Engine: Tomei Header, Perrin Exhaust, K&N Drop in filter
Thanks for your help!
This is my first event. I'm not sure if it's open to novice drivers, but I'm looking to attend and register for the weekend of July 21/22 at El Toro.
I need help in figuring out what class my car would fall under if I am able to attend. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I would fall under the D Street class (DS).
The car is a 13' Subaru BRZ. Everything is stock except for these modifications.
Tires: Michelin PSS (215/45R17)
Engine: Tomei Header, Perrin Exhaust, K&N Drop in filter
Thanks for your help!
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Your header bumps you out of the street category but no one locally will probably mind. Otherwise you can always run CST (our anything goes 200TW street tire class)!Hugo wrote:Hello,
This is my first event. I'm not sure if it's open to novice drivers, but I'm looking to attend and register for the weekend of July 21/22 at El Toro.
I need help in figuring out what class my car would fall under if I am able to attend. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I would fall under the D Street class (DS).
The car is a 13' Subaru BRZ. Everything is stock except for these modifications.
Tires: Michelin PSS (215/45R17)
Engine: Tomei Header, Perrin Exhaust, K&N Drop in filter
Thanks for your help!
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Hey Hugo,Hugo wrote: This is my first event. I'm not sure if it's open to novice drivers, but I'm looking to attend and register for the weekend of July 21/22 at El Toro.
Welcome to Cal Club SCCA Autocross! We are absolutely open to novice drivers! Come on out and join the fun. We have lots of great folks that will be glad to "show you the ropes!" Go ahead and sign up for the event. Let the registration folks on site know you're new and they'll get you pointed in the right direction. We also have instructors that are glad to help you get around those first few laps, and our novice coordinator does a very informative novice track walk (full of speed secrets...a must attend item for anybody interested in going faster!). If you need a helmet, we have free loaners available as well. Arrive early, get signed in, get your car tech'd, walk course, and make sure you attend the driver's meeting (they'll cover all the safety stuff, rules and what's expected when you do your work assignment).
Also, you're more than welcome to bring your friends (family, significant others, etc.). No charge to come and watch. We also allow passengers to ride along (again no charge), so feel free to bring friends/family....or hang out in grid with a helmet and ask if you can ride along with one of our experienced drivers (an awesome way to learn....and get a chance to ride in some pretty cool cars).
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!
Randy G.
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If I somehow managed to contend what class would I be in? I found it and my auto fit the road arranged classification on the spot aside from the interior motor redesign. My motor is stock (94 Mazda rx-7 1.3L wankel) aside from I have a gentle road port.Hello,
This is my first event. I'm not sure if it's open to novice drivers, but I'm looking to attend and register for the weekend of July 21/22 at El Toro.
I need help getting crazy bulk in figuring out what class my car would fall under if I am able to attend. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I would fall under the D Street class (DS).
The car is a 13' Subaru BRZ. Everything is stock except for these modifications.
Tires: Michelin PSS (215/45R17)
Engine: Tomei Header, Perrin Exhaust, K&N Drop in filter
Thanks for your help!
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