Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

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Julian Yun
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Julian Yun » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:00 am

Hey Guys,

I normally go on open track road course events, but now I am thinking of doing AutoX events. I was wondering what you guys would classify my car as?

2016 Audi S3 (AWD) DSG Automatic

Upgraded Wheels (19x8.5 et 35) - OEM Wheels are 19x8
Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires 235/35/19 (OEM Size)
OEM Exhaust Resonator Delete
Upgraded Exhaust Tips (Tips only, not muffler)
Lowering Springs
Upgraded Rear Sway Bar
Adjustable Rear End links
Upgraded Subframe Inserts
Upgraded Transmission Dogmount Mount
Upgraded Brake Pads
Upgraded Brake Stainless Steel Lines
Rear Chassis Brace
Castrol SRF Brake Fluid
Stage 1.5 ECU Tune
Stage 1 DSG Transmission Tune
Upgraded Air Intake Short Ram System
Carbon Fiber Front Lip Spoiler
Carbon Fiber Rear Trunk Spoiler

Thanks guys!

Look forward to hearing from you.

Julian

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby O Prachumsri » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:24 pm

Hi Guys,

I am thinking of doing my first Autocross event and wanted to make sure I get my car classes correctly. The car is a 1987 MR2 NA, with the following mods:

TRD lowering springs
Koni Yellows rebound adjustable shocks
Dunlop Direzza 205 sections tires (stock is 185 i believe)
Enkei's RPF1 15 in. diameter (stock is 14 in.)
Short Shifter
Aftermarket steering wheel
Polyurethane suspension bushings
Polyurethane engine mount bushing

Am I correct in classifying my car as a street touring sport (STS) and since I am a novice it would be NOV STS ?

Thank you,

O
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Brad Grider
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Brad Grider » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:02 pm

New to the forums and AutoX as a whole. I've run once and got hooked but now I need assistance classing my car. This is an easy one I believe...

I've got a stock 2017 Subaru WRX STI. Thanks!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:10 am

Brad Grider wrote:New to the forums and AutoX as a whole. I've run once and got hooked but now I need assistance classing my car. This is an easy one I believe...

I've got a stock 2017 Subaru WRX STI. Thanks!

B Street (BS)
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Brad Grider » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:34 pm

Rick Brown wrote:
Brad Grider wrote:New to the forums and AutoX as a whole. I've run once and got hooked but now I need assistance classing my car. This is an easy one I believe...

I've got a stock 2017 Subaru WRX STI. Thanks!

B Street (BS)


Thanks a bunch for this!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Craig Naylor » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:56 am

O Prachumsri wrote:Am I correct in classifying my car as a street touring sport (STS) and since I am a novice it would be NOV STS ?
Thank you,
O


Correct on both acct's. Car is STS, you may compete in either STS or Novice with an STS multiplier.

Bump for Julian Yun's post above for his Audi. Can someone assist with that one?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Anthony Porta » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:01 am

I think BSP is pretty close... and I certainly wouldn't complain. I notated whats not ok for BSP. For local events I think CST is proabably the way to go unless you get hooked on the sport and try some r-comps. On national level events if your on street tires while not legal I can imagine anyone protesting you being in BSP. (CST is not available at those events)

Julian Yun wrote:Hey Guys,

I normally go on open track road course events, but now I am thinking of doing AutoX events. I was wondering what you guys would classify my car as?

2016 Audi S3 (AWD) DSG Automatic

Upgraded Wheels (19x8.5 et 35) - OEM Wheels are 19x8
Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires 235/35/19 (OEM Size)
OEM Exhaust Resonator Delete
Upgraded Exhaust Tips (Tips only, not muffler)
Lowering Springs
Upgraded Rear Sway Bar
Adjustable Rear End links
Upgraded Subframe Inserts
Upgraded Transmission Dogmount Mount -Might not be BSP legal
Upgraded Brake Pads
Upgraded Brake Stainless Steel Lines
Rear Chassis Brace
Castrol SRF Brake Fluid
Stage 1.5 ECU Tune
Stage 1 DSG Transmission Tune -Not BSP legal.
Upgraded Air Intake Short Ram System
Carbon Fiber Front Lip Spoiler -Might not be BSP legal if it extends beyond the front-most part of the bumper
Carbon Fiber Rear Trunk Spoiler

Thanks guys!

Look forward to hearing from you.

Julian
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Robert Puertas » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:08 am

Hey Julian,
You probably want to run our local-only CST class. It basically allows anything street-legal on "street" tires.

If you provide more detail on a couple of items, we can confirm which SCCA national class you would be in. But, I suspect the answer is SM (Street Modified).
Specifically send us links to websites for your Rear Chassis Brace, Transmission Dogmount and Subframe Inserts.
I may be missing something else, but those are the things that might bump you from Street Prepared to Street Modified.

Either way, I'd be running CST unless you decide to upgrade to DOT race rubber.

Julian Yun wrote:Hey Guys,

I normally go on open track road course events, but now I am thinking of doing AutoX events. I was wondering what you guys would classify my car as?

2016 Audi S3 (AWD) DSG Automatic

Upgraded Wheels (19x8.5 et 35) - OEM Wheels are 19x8
Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires 235/35/19 (OEM Size)
OEM Exhaust Resonator Delete
Upgraded Exhaust Tips (Tips only, not muffler)
Lowering Springs
Upgraded Rear Sway Bar
Adjustable Rear End links
Upgraded Subframe Inserts
Upgraded Transmission Dogmount Mount
Upgraded Brake Pads
Upgraded Brake Stainless Steel Lines
Rear Chassis Brace
Castrol SRF Brake Fluid
Stage 1.5 ECU Tune
Stage 1 DSG Transmission Tune
Upgraded Air Intake Short Ram System
Carbon Fiber Front Lip Spoiler
Carbon Fiber Rear Trunk Spoiler

Thanks guys!

Look forward to hearing from you.

Julian

O Prachumsri
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby O Prachumsri » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:34 am

Craig Naylor wrote:Correct on both acct's. Car is STS, you may compete in either STS or Novice with an STS multiplier.


Thank you! Looking forward to the weekend.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Marshall Grice » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:36 am

Anthony Porta wrote:I think BSP is pretty close... and I certainly wouldn't complain. I notated whats not ok for BSP. For local events I think CST is proabably the way to go unless you get hooked on the sport and try some r-comps. On national level events if your on street tires while not legal I can imagine anyone protesting you being in BSP. (CST is not available at those events)

I don't see the 2016 S3 classed yet in any SP class. I think CST is a good place to run.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Anthony Porta » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:10 am

Marshall Grice wrote:
Anthony Porta wrote:I think BSP is pretty close... and I certainly wouldn't complain. I notated whats not ok for BSP. For local events I think CST is proabably the way to go unless you get hooked on the sport and try some r-comps. On national level events if your on street tires while not legal I can imagine anyone protesting you being in BSP. (CST is not available at those events)

I don't see the 2016 S3 classed yet in any SP class. I think CST is a good place to run.


Whoops on my part. Marshall is indeed correct.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Ramon Valencia » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:26 pm

Totally new here and want to try AutoX. What would you classify a bone stock 2014 Lexus IS250 and will the class change if I install aftermarket exhaust such as the Apexi N1 Evolution (catback system).

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Marshall Grice » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:31 am

Ramon Valencia wrote:Totally new here and want to try AutoX. What would you classify a bone stock 2014 Lexus IS250 and will the class change if I install aftermarket exhaust such as the Apexi N1 Evolution (catback system).

Thanks for the info.

D-street. catback exhaust is legal for street class.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Ramon Valencia » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:50 am

Marshall Grice wrote:D-street. catback exhaust is legal for street class.
Awesome! Thanks for the info. DS it is. Hope to meet you guys next month.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Julian Yun » Tue May 09, 2017 11:10 pm

Anthony Porta wrote:
Marshall Grice wrote:
Anthony Porta wrote:I think BSP is pretty close... and I certainly wouldn't complain. I notated whats not ok for BSP. For local events I think CST is proabably the way to go unless you get hooked on the sport and try some r-comps. On national level events if your on street tires while not legal I can imagine anyone protesting you being in BSP. (CST is not available at those events)

I don't see the 2016 S3 classed yet in any SP class. I think CST is a good place to run.


Whoops on my part. Marshall is indeed correct.



Thank you all for the responses!

Can't wait to go to my first event soon!

Here are links to my rear chassis brace, transmission dogbone Mount and my subframe inserts:

https://www.ecodetuning.com/audi-8v-mk7 ... ory_id=337

https://store.034motorsport.com/mqb-dog ... minum.html

https://store.034motorsport.com/billet- ... olf-r.html

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Pete Morris » Fri May 26, 2017 7:33 pm

Just signed up. I run a 2014 Fiesta ST. Mods are as follows:- bigger intercooler, lowering springs, but with no internal or external engine modifications. I take it that I would be in SP?

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MB C450 classing help please

Postby Ramon Valencia » Sun May 28, 2017 8:27 pm

I looked at the SCCA classing rules but didn't find the C450. Does anyone know what class a bone stock Mercedes C450 falls under?

Thanks in advance.

Ramon
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Re: MB C450 classing help please

Postby Quoc-Viet Dang » Sun May 28, 2017 11:13 pm

Ramon Valencia wrote:I looked at the SCCA classing rules but didn't find the C450. Does anyone know what class a bone stock Mercedes C450 falls under?

Thanks in advance.

Ramon


It would fall under H Street under Mercedes NOC (Not otherwise classified).

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Re: MB C450 classing help please

Postby Ramon Valencia » Tue May 30, 2017 8:58 am

Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:
Ramon Valencia wrote:I looked at the SCCA classing rules but didn't find the C450. Does anyone know what class a bone stock Mercedes C450 falls under?

Thanks in advance.

Ramon


It would fall under H Street under Mercedes NOC (Not otherwise classified).


Great! Thanks for the help!

The c450 is a V6 turbo with 365HP. It'll have crazy advantage in HS.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Tue May 30, 2017 12:09 pm

Pete Morris wrote:Just signed up. I run a 2014 Fiesta ST. Mods are as follows:- bigger intercooler, lowering springs, but with no internal or external engine modifications. I take it that I would be in SP?

Yes, OK for CSP. You could also run in our local catch all classes, depending on tires: Calif Street Mod (CSM) with any street legal tire, or Calif Street Touring (CST) with tread wear rating of 140 or higher.
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Re: MB C450 classing help please

Postby Craig Naylor » Tue May 30, 2017 9:43 pm

Ramon Valencia wrote:
Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:
Ramon Valencia wrote:I looked at the SCCA classing rules but didn't find the C450. Does anyone know what class a bone stock Mercedes C450 falls under?

It would fall under H Street under Mercedes NOC (Not otherwise classified).

The c450 is a V6 turbo with 365HP. It'll have crazy advantage in HS.

H Street would... except he is else-wise classed...

D Street:
Mercedes-Benz
- C-Class (6-cyl, non-AMG) (2001-16)

That's still a gift, as he probably belongs in FStreet along side:
Mercedes-Benz
- C300 (2007-16)

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Dana Ebaugh » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:25 am

My car is a 97 Eclipse Spider with a 2.0ltr turbo. What class

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Rick Brown » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:59 pm

Dana Ebaugh wrote:My car is a 97 Eclipse Spider with a 2.0ltr turbo. What class

Don't know much about Eclipse, but G Street (GS) is FWD, D Street (DS) if AWD.
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Car is a 02 Acura 3.2 TL what class should I use

Postby Dana Ebaugh » Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:41 pm

Rick Brown wrote:
Dana Ebaugh wrote:My car is a 97 Eclipse Spider with a 2.0ltr turbo. What class

Don't know much about Eclipse, but G Street (GS) is FWD, D Street (DS) if AWD.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Postby Luke Daley » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:52 pm

Hi everyone! First time Auto-xer here. Done some HPDE in the past, but I wanted to finally give auto-x a try. Hopefully someone can help me with my class! I am only doing the practice run, so I'm not worried about being in a competitive class.

I have a 2003 Mazda Protege5

Bridgestone RE-71R 200TW 215/45-17 (Stock is 195/45-16)
OEM Shocks and Springs from the MazdaSpeed Protégé (Lowers the car about an inch over stock IIRC)
OEM Rear Sway Bar from MazdaSpeed Protégé
K&N Cold Air Intake
Slotted Front Rotors
Short Shifter
Polyurethane front and rear motor mounts

I will also be stripping the interior for weight savings. Appreciate the help!


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