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Yes. These are really the rules.

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3.7 VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION
A. All vehicles must display numbers and class letters on both sides,
which must be readable by Timing & Scoring, Course, and Grid
workers at all times.
B. Only one set of numbers and class letters may be visible while the
vehicle is running.
C. Class shall be represented by the upper-case abbreviated form rather
than be spelled out. Ladies’ classes shall be indicated by the letter
“L” following the class letters. (Example: “BSPL” instead of “B Street
Prepared Ladies”).
D. Numbers and class letters should be positioned next to each other.
All letters and numbers must be on body panels, not on windows.
All numbers and class letters must use the same typeface and the
same color, and this color must provide adequate contrast to the
background color (see Appendix F for examples).
E. Numbers must be a minimum of 8” high with a 1.25” stroke. Class
letters must be a minimum of 4” high with a 0.75” stroke. In all cases,
the height of the class letters must be between 25% and 75% of
the height of the numbers. Stroke width must be at least 10% of the
height (see Appendix F.)
F. The “1” on two-driver cars and the “L” on Ladies class cars are subject
to all of the above requirements with regard to placement, color,
size, and stroke.
G. Karts may use numbers and class letters of reduced size provided
that the following conditions are met:
1) Numbers must be displayed on the front and rear in addition to
both sides.
2) Class letters must be on both sides.
3) In no case may the numbers be smaller than 6” in height with ¾”
stroke, using a high-contrast color and background.

Now, I normally work as the announcer in the Timing Assault Vehicle. Many times, I can't see numbers and class letters and that's in the place we can see them the best, usually. Sunday I worked on course as the radio person, cone chaser, profanity swearer and bartender during the 3rd run group. Half of the cone calls were on cars that got a response from the TAV of, "We don't have a car with that number". Some cars had two different numbers on each side, some cars had three different classes on them and weren't in index classes and some had no numbers at all (actually, my car was missing a number on one side for my last run but I "fixed" that problem by spinning the car towards the worker station after I hit the cones so they could properly DNF me). Point is, read the above. It am the rules and the DNF or cone call you save may be your own. If you use blue tape numbers, knock it off. They're unreadable. Really. On a white car, kinda, but they're really worthless otherwise (and you dumbasses with blue Subarus that have these numbers know who you are).

The SD Tour and El Toro Pro are coming up. The tech workers there will not tolerate crap like this. Seek out people like Jayson Woodruff and/or other online vendors and pick up some real magnetic or vinyl numbers and letters. You might also find that the better your car looks, the better chance you might get of a car ending up in online or mainstream print. I know. I've seen me do it.

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I whole-heartedly agree with the bad numbers and blue tape comments....
Sunday was tough though even on the guys with the good stuff. I saw three cars in our heat lose high quality magnetics on course right at the start. Combination of cold weather meaning stiff magnetics and high gusting winds. We couldn't even get any heat on our hoods to warm them up.
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Steve Ekstrand wrote:I whole-heartedly agree with the bad numbers and blue tape comments....
Sunday was tough though even on the guys with the good stuff. I saw three cars in our heat lose high quality magnetics on course right at the start. Combination of cold weather meaning stiff magnetics and high gusting winds. We couldn't even get any heat on our hoods to warm them up.
I lost a number too, as stated above. Tom lost one as well. First thing he said after the event was, "Time to get some real numbers"...

...and his were readable...and legal...
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http://www.JayComVinyl.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:D

Magnets, sticky vinyl, etc.

If people are thinking of getting something from me before the National Tour/ProSolo, speak up soon, I'm starting to get the rush.

woodrufj@jaycomservices.com

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I lost one too. If anyone found a number 7 let me know.
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I Blame Lugod.
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I lost one 'SK2 CS' magnet.
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Good luck with your numbers crusade. It comes up time and time again. At Nationals I once worked tech and was given the assignment to police the numbers. I picked the very worst one I saw and told him he had to upgrade it because it was too short, too narrow stroke and it was a green paisley print on a blue car. Awful. He complained to head of tech and a national office guy, and the word came down to just let him run. They may be the rules, but to call enforcement sporadic would be an understatement.
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Curt Luther wrote:Seek out people like Jayson Woodruff and/or other online vendors and pick up some real magnetic or vinyl numbers and letters.
Just bought some from Jayson last week.
All numbers/letters are machine cut using quality magnetic vinyl that won't fall off easily... Thank you Jayson!
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Michael Palero wrote:I Blame Lugod.
Generally sound advice...
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Mike Simanyi wrote:
Michael Palero wrote:I Blame Lugod.
Generally sound advice...
Agreed.
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Tom Berry wrote:
Mike Simanyi wrote:
Michael Palero wrote:I Blame Lugod.
Generally sound advice...
Agreed.
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i dont see how im responsible for someone else's numbers? :lol:
That is unless you all think that im palero. :unimpressed:
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Jonathan Lugod wrote:That is unless you all think that im palero. :unimpressed:
See how he pre-empted the blame that would naturally have been directed at him by throwing you under the bus first? He's wily. :lol:
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Don't worry too much Jon-- most people can't tell us apart so there will only be a 50% chance someone will be mad at you
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Michael Palero wrote:Don't worry too much Jon-- most people can't tell us apart so there will only be a 50% chance someone will be mad at you
But there's only a 75% chance of that.
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I suggest a simple bold block font for the printed-out "600" numbers. A few events back, there were some wimpy italic jobbers that were really hard to read.
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Todd Victoria wrote:I lost one too. If anyone found a number 7 let me know.
Kurt Williams found a 7. It is on the right trailer fender.
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Leonard Cachola wrote:I lost one 'SK2 CS' magnet.
Kurt Williams found it. Right fender on trailer.
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any luck on my 94? just realized i need it for the tour :shock: . Will be driving home from bakersfield tomorrow and probably swing by the motorhome at eltoro.
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KJ Christopher wrote:
Todd Victoria wrote:I lost one too. If anyone found a number 7 let me know.
Kurt Williams found a 7. It is on the right trailer fender.
Cool. Thanks.
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