Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

If you're new to autocross, new to the forum or need a hand with what class you should be in, ask for help here.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Tro Adjoyan » Wed May 22, 2019 7:35 am

Fist timer here, want to sign up this summer.

I have a suspension/chassis modified challenger R/T stock motor 6 speed. What would be the best class for me?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Tom Kamman » Thu May 23, 2019 12:20 pm

CAM-C. Just make sure you have 200TW (or higher) tires.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by yohan park » Tue May 28, 2019 3:28 pm

Hi I have a stock 2019 VW GTI rabbit edition with DSG transmission. I looked at the rules pdf and it says "GS"?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Shane Donahue » Wed May 29, 2019 8:43 pm

Bone stock? then G-Street or (AKA GS) it is.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Ben Wysard » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:59 am

I have a 2019 fiesta st. The only mods I have on it are lowering springs and camber bolts. What class would I be in? Also this would be my first autocross

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Reed Gibson » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:50 pm

Ben Wysard wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:59 am
I have a 2019 fiesta st. The only mods I have on it are lowering springs and camber bolts. What class would I be in? Also this would be my first autocross
Ben, your car would be in HS is you ditched the springs and camber bolts (and it'd be very competitive to boot!). Otherwise you'll slot into the STH street touring class or you can run in CST, our open catch all class.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Reed Gibson » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:55 pm

For future reference, here are the SCCA provided stock car classing guidelines, to use these first identify the street (or otherwise stock) class your car resides in.

https://www.scca.com/downloads/44544-20 ... s/download

If you have any mods, check them against this handy spreadsheet that shows the allowances for the other prepared/modified classes.

https://www.scca.com/downloads/44544-20 ... s/download

If you have mods that bump you into an alternate class (say lowered suspension which would move you into at a minimum Street Touring or ST) then you'll need to check the full SCCA rulebook to verify which class your car falls into.

https://www.scca.com/downloads/45945-20 ... d/download

(This file is a .pdf so ctrl+f and search for your make/model to easily find what classes its eligible for!)

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Bush Nguyen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:46 am

Hi guys, i have a 2013 370z Nismo, which i know is in the STU class, but i do have Cold Air Intakes, ArT Test Pipes and a Catback Exhaust System. I am also upgrading rear diff bushing to stiffer ones, and may tune my car soon. Will that kick me into a different category?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Reed Gibson » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:53 pm

Bush Nguyen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:46 am
Hi guys, i have a 2013 370z Nismo, which i know is in the STU class, but i do have Cold Air Intakes, ArT Test Pipes and a Catback Exhaust System. I am also upgrading rear diff bushing to stiffer ones, and may tune my car soon. Will that kick me into a different category?
The tune and the bushings are all Street Touring legal, however your test pipe will automatically bump you up to Street Prepared (SP). I would just run STU for now, you can ask your competitors if they are ok with it as the test pipe will only give you a slight power advantage, running in SP will be brutal unless you have Hoosiers :D

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Ben Natividad » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:36 am

Hello all! I have a 1995 BMW 318ti that is stock except for a welded replacement muffler past the rear axle. I checked the rulebook and my search only showed F Street prepared. Can I possibly get more clarification on what class I can be in? Thanks! Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:50 am

Ben Natividad wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:36 am
Hello all! I have a 1995 BMW 318ti that is stock except for a welded replacement muffler past the rear axle. I checked the rulebook and my search only showed F Street prepared. Can I possibly get more clarification on what class I can be in? Thanks! Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
Pg 195 in the 2019 rule book shows a stock 318 would go in H-Street

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Ben Natividad » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:34 am

Thanks a lot!!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Jake Smith » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am

Hey guys!

I am completely new to this scene and really want to get into it. After reading a lot of the stuff here, I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused..! :shock:

I was hoping you guys could make sure I'm headed in the right direction with everything! So for starters, I guess I'm posting here!
I'm a new owner to a 2019 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package for a few months now and like I mentioned above, I really want to get into this auto scene! So far I've been having a bit of a hard time finding even meets or groups. Either they aren't necessarily "accepting" or I just haven't found the right group yet, so I'm hoping this is the place I've been waiting to find!

Now that I'm registered here, where would be the next place to start?
Thank you so much in advance!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Reed Gibson » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:04 am

Jake Smith wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am
Hey guys!

I am completely new to this scene and really want to get into it. After reading a lot of the stuff here, I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused..! :shock:

I was hoping you guys could make sure I'm headed in the right direction with everything! So for starters, I guess I'm posting here!
I'm a new owner to a 2019 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package for a few months now and like I mentioned above, I really want to get into this auto scene! So far I've been having a bit of a hard time finding even meets or groups. Either they aren't necessarily "accepting" or I just haven't found the right group yet, so I'm hoping this is the place I've been waiting to find!

Now that I'm registered here, where would be the next place to start?
Thank you so much in advance!
Hi Jake, welcome to the autocross community! While chatting on the forums may be fun, driving at an event is way more fun! My recommendation would be to sign up for the next event to be held at Autoclub Speedway in Fontana on Nov. 9/10 (see this link for newcomers hosted on our main website https://www.solo2.com/newcomers).

We host two days of driving. Saturday is our long form practice day where you will run/work two sessions and will drive on average ~12-14 runs for the day. On Sunday we have our "competition" days where you run/work once for 4 runs. The competition part really only means we will count cones for time penalties which is important for those of us running in the year long points championship. Hopefully your schedule allows you to come out to either one or both days. We'd love to show you around and get you some rides in other cars (this is really only possible on Saturday, Sunday most drivers will want to be as light as possible for time!).

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:20 am

Hi Jake,

Welcome! I'll echo what reed said, plus you'll probably want to attend Leonard's Novice course walks on Sunday. They are filled with a wealth of information plus it's a great opportunity to meet people.

It takes a bit, but for many of us this is like a second family.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Jake Smith » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:36 pm

Reed Gibson wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:04 am
Jake Smith wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am
Hey guys!

I am completely new to this scene and really want to get into it. After reading a lot of the stuff here, I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused..! :shock:

I was hoping you guys could make sure I'm headed in the right direction with everything! So for starters, I guess I'm posting here!
I'm a new owner to a 2019 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package for a few months now and like I mentioned above, I really want to get into this auto scene! So far I've been having a bit of a hard time finding even meets or groups. Either they aren't necessarily "accepting" or I just haven't found the right group yet, so I'm hoping this is the place I've been waiting to find!

Now that I'm registered here, where would be the next place to start?
Thank you so much in advance!
Hi Jake, welcome to the autocross community! While chatting on the forums may be fun, driving at an event is way more fun! My recommendation would be to sign up for the next event to be held at Autoclub Speedway in Fontana on Nov. 9/10 (see this link for newcomers hosted on our main website https://www.solo2.com/newcomers).

We host two days of driving. Saturday is our long form practice day where you will run/work two sessions and will drive on average ~12-14 runs for the day. On Sunday we have our "competition" days where you run/work once for 4 runs. The competition part really only means we will count cones for time penalties which is important for those of us running in the year long points championship. Hopefully your schedule allows you to come out to either one or both days. We'd love to show you around and get you some rides in other cars (this is really only possible on Saturday, Sunday most drivers will want to be as light as possible for time!).
Thank you both so much! I'm extremely eager and excited to start in autocross. I will absolutely take a look at the links you provided and will try my best to at least make it on that Saturday Practice to learn the ropes!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Jake Smith » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:44 pm

Reed Gibson wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:04 am
Jake Smith wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am
Hey guys!

I am completely new to this scene and really want to get into it. After reading a lot of the stuff here, I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused..! :shock:

I was hoping you guys could make sure I'm headed in the right direction with everything! So for starters, I guess I'm posting here!
I'm a new owner to a 2019 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package for a few months now and like I mentioned above, I really want to get into this auto scene! So far I've been having a bit of a hard time finding even meets or groups. Either they aren't necessarily "accepting" or I just haven't found the right group yet, so I'm hoping this is the place I've been waiting to find!

Now that I'm registered here, where would be the next place to start?
Thank you so much in advance!
Hi Jake, welcome to the autocross community! While chatting on the forums may be fun, driving at an event is way more fun! My recommendation would be to sign up for the next event to be held at Autoclub Speedway in Fontana on Nov. 9/10 (see this link for newcomers hosted on our main website https://www.solo2.com/newcomers).

We host two days of driving. Saturday is our long form practice day where you will run/work two sessions and will drive on average ~12-14 runs for the day. On Sunday we have our "competition" days where you run/work once for 4 runs. The competition part really only means we will count cones for time penalties which is important for those of us running in the year long points championship. Hopefully your schedule allows you to come out to either one or both days. We'd love to show you around and get you some rides in other cars (this is really only possible on Saturday, Sunday most drivers will want to be as light as possible for time!).
I have a few more questions actually.

If I purchase a membership, does that mean I still have to pay to go to each event? For example the 9th and 10th of November, does each day have a different price? So if I wanted to attend an event, I need to pay $70 for the membership and then have to pay on top of that? I saw on Saturday it said the entry fee was $80 and then Sunday it was $35. I'm a bit confused about this.

Also, I saw something about having a number on your car. Do I need to do this myself? Or do you have numbers there?
Thanks

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:35 am

Scca membership comes in 2 forms a weekend membership, good for the entire weekend. Or a yearly membership (purchase at scca.com). If you buy a weekend membership and later want to but a yearly membership you can use up to two weekend membership numbers (they will email you them after the event) for credit towards a yearly membership.

Temporary numbers in the 600-699 range are required when you select the Sunday event (it's how we track your racing times) unless you purchase a points card. Paper numbers are available in a box at registration, or you can bring print and bring them.
A points card allows you to collect year end points and have a permanent number in the 300-599 & 700-999 ranges. Registration for next years points cards should open soon and will be on the same page as solo2.motorsportreg.com and you'll probably get an email too.

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Jake Smith » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:11 pm

Thanks again for the reply!

Though I just wanted to confirm or not, do you still have to pay to attend each event, if you have a membership?

For example, if I purchase a year membership, will I have to pay on top of that to attend each event. And is Saturday and Sunday seperate events? Would I have to pay for each event?

Sorry if I'm wording this confusing, I'm trying to figure all this out!
Thanks a bunch in advance!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Rick Brown » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:04 am

Jake Smith wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:11 pm
Thanks again for the reply!

Though I just wanted to confirm or not, do you still have to pay to attend each event, if you have a membership?

For example, if I purchase a year membership, will I have to pay on top of that to attend each event. And is Saturday and Sunday seperate events? Would I have to pay for each event?

Sorry if I'm wording this confusing, I'm trying to figure all this out!
Thanks a bunch in advance!
Hi Jake,
The primary membership to play is SCCA and can either be a weekend membership ($15) or a yearly membership ($70 for our region). This covers insurance and other benefits for you. This is mandatory. As was mentioned, up to two weekend fees can go toward a yearly membership.

There is also a membership in our autocross part of the local region which provides for the right to have a permanent number and tracking of year end points in your class. This is optional.

Event fees are how we pay for the lots we compete on (quite expensive) and the other expenses of putting on events. Yes, Saturday and Sunday are separate events, even though it's a single link on Motorsportreg, you choose what you are entering at checkout.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Jake Smith » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:45 am

Rick Brown wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:04 am
Jake Smith wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:11 pm
Thanks again for the reply!

Though I just wanted to confirm or not, do you still have to pay to attend each event, if you have a membership?

For example, if I purchase a year membership, will I have to pay on top of that to attend each event. And is Saturday and Sunday seperate events? Would I have to pay for each event?

Sorry if I'm wording this confusing, I'm trying to figure all this out!
Thanks a bunch in advance!
Hi Jake,
The primary membership to play is SCCA and can either be a weekend membership ($15) or a yearly membership ($70 for our region). This covers insurance and other benefits for you. This is mandatory. As was mentioned, up to two weekend fees can go toward a yearly membership.

There is also a membership in our autocross part of the local region which provides for the right to have a permanent number and tracking of year end points in your class. This is optional.

Event fees are how we pay for the lots we compete on (quite expensive) and the other expenses of putting on events. Yes, Saturday and Sunday are separate events, even though it's a single link on Motorsportreg, you choose what you are entering at checkout.

Hope that helps.
Thank you so much for the clarification, much appreciated!
As far as classing my car, what would I class it as? The link on the registration page to the car classes doesn't seem to work.
I have a Stock 2019 Mustang Ecoboost Performance Package.
Thanks!

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:45 am

B street

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Bill Martin » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:32 pm

You sure about that?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:54 pm

Bill Martin wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:32 pm
You sure about that?
Feel free to quote the Rulebook, where else would it belong?

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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!

Post by Anthony P. » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm

Anthony P. wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:54 pm
Bill Martin wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:32 pm
You sure about that?
Could be FS, I guess, depends what level performance pack n such.

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