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Is there a site where I can find that the e46 m3 was amended into the STU class. I can't find it anywhere.
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Johnny Liu wrote:Is there a site where I can find that the e46 m3 was amended into the STU class. I can't find it anywhere.
http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=78" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gotta look through this years Fastrack Solo sections, or wait for the 2010 rulebook.
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Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
Johnny Liu wrote:Is there a site where I can find that the e46 m3 was amended into the STU class. I can't find it anywhere.
http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=78" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gotta look through this years Fastrack Solo sections, or wait for the 2010 rulebook.
I just went through that earlier and I didn't see anything about allowing e46 m3's in STU. I Emailed Leonard the novice coordinator and he said SST, but when I look at http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... gories.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I dont' even see an SST class. SHould I be looking elsewhere?


oh wait. should I be following this guide instead?
http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _Rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I guess national or regional class makeup should be the same right?
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SST is a local only class for cars not otherwise legal for ST - however, the E46 M3 is legal in STU. Trust me, I raced quite a few of them this year at National events.
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Max Hayter wrote:SST is a local only class for cars not otherwise legal for ST - however, the E46 M3 is legal in STU. Trust me, I raced quite a few of them this year at National events.
awesome. so I should be looking at the regional website for the majority of my info over the scca.org site?
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Johnny Liu wrote:
Max Hayter wrote:SST is a local only class for cars not otherwise legal for ST - however, the E46 M3 is legal in STU. Trust me, I raced quite a few of them this year at National events.
awesome. so I should be looking at the regional website for the majority of my info over the scca.org site?
In general the local rules are Supplemental to the SCCA rules.
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Johnny Liu wrote:
Max Hayter wrote:SST is a local only class for cars not otherwise legal for ST - however, the E46 M3 is legal in STU. Trust me, I raced quite a few of them this year at National events.
awesome. so I should be looking at the regional website for the majority of my info over the scca.org site?
You should for SST classing and other local classes. However, no need in your case, since you have a car which is eligible and some might even think, competitive, in a National class.
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Originally, the E46 M3 was excluded from STU, but that exclusion has been removed for a while now.
STU doesn't specifically list cars (other than giving a non-exhaustive list of examples).

Street Touring Class U (STU)
Class Requirements and Restrictions:
Coupes/Sedans - 4 seats minimum
Engine Displacement
- any normally aspirated or
- up to 3.1L forced induction
(turbocharged/supercharged).Example Classifications:
All ST and STX Eligible Cars +
- Audi S4
- BMW M3 (E36 ‘95-’99)
- Chevrolet Camaro 5.7L
- Pontiac GTO
- Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
(‘03+)
- Subaru WRX STI
- Volvo S60R
Excluded:
All sports cars, sports car based
models and
- Audi S4 (V8)
- BMW M5 (E39 & E60 ‘01+)
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Steve Ekstrand wrote:Originally, the E46 M3 was excluded from STU, but that exclusion has been removed for a while now.
STU doesn't specifically list cars (other than giving a non-exhaustive list of examples).
Good to know! =) (See, that's why I have novices post here.)
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Leonard Cachola wrote:
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Originally, the E46 M3 was excluded from STU, but that exclusion has been removed for a while now.
STU doesn't specifically list cars (other than giving a non-exhaustive list of examples).
Good to know! =) (See, that's why I have novices post here.)
leonard thanks for responding to my email! very helpful
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Which class would a Datsun 240Z w/ Chevy Small Block engine on normal road tires be in?

I did a lot of searching and couldn't really get a definite answer.

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Locally, it sounds made for our CST class.

Nationally, it would probably have to go to XP (or EM) because of the engine swap.
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Steve Ekstrand wrote:Locally, it sounds made for our CST class.

Nationally, it would probably have to go to XP (or EM) because of the engine swap.

Thank you very much for your quick reply!

Sorry, but I was looking everywhere for a CST, XP, and EM classes and didn't find anything on http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... gories.pdf

Am I missing something?
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go to http://www.solo2.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and click on the links for:

2009 National Solo Rules (XP, EM)
http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _Rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Prepared Class X ..... 182
Modifi ed Class E .... 220

and

2009 CSCC Supp Regs (CST)
http://www.solo2.com/MiscDocuments/SCCA ... s_2009.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
APPENDIX A
...
CALIFORNIA STREET TOURING (CST)
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Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:go to http://www.solo2.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and click on the links for:

2009 National Solo Rules (XP, EM)
http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _Rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Prepared Class X ..... 182
Modifi ed Class E .... 220

and

2009 CSCC Supp Regs (CST)
http://www.solo2.com/MiscDocuments/SCCA ... s_2009.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
APPENDIX A
...
CALIFORNIA STREET TOURING (CST)


Thank you so much!
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XP and EM are brutally fast classes. But our local CST class is a lot of fun. At least two z guys run there regularly, sometimes more. Its pretty wide open, but the spirit is more build what you like for many purposes vs mega dollars specifically for a defined set of rules. Downside is that CST is only local, but for now that's where I'd go. Art Rinner is our local Z guru.
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Wow I'm glad I fit into a specific category :)

And Art is one of my mechanics! Awesome! I took my car to his shop and plan to pay him a lot more visits ;)
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Is a CF hood ok in CST?

Thanks.
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Mike Kazmierczak wrote:Is a CF hood ok in CST?

Thanks.
Basically EVERYTHING except <140 treadwear tires is acceptable in CST.
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Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:
Mike Kazmierczak wrote:Is a CF hood ok in CST?

Thanks.
Basically EVERYTHING except <140 treadwear tires is acceptable in CST.
Thanks QV. Wanted to check before ordering magnets. :thumbup:

Errr, one more SCNAX member in CST. :o
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Looking for classing information.

1990 Corvette L98 6sp Z51, ZR-1 wheels, Kumo tires. K&N Air Filter, I think it has Cat Back exhaust replacement, looks pretty stock. Koni Adjustable Shocks, lowered, Aftermarket PROM. Inside I am adding a harness bar, Pyrotect 5 point harness. I believe that's it.
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Art,

I think the wider than stock wheels and the aftermarket PROM would put you in BSP, at least nationally. I don't know about which local only classes are ok.
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Thank you.
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need car class on a 1994 bmw 318is slotted rotors with stock calipers aftermarket pads. engine only has lightweightflywheel and clutch. stock wheels


also i planning on attenting an event tomorro what are rules on a crack in window i have attended events before with my old car and was told if its not view obstructing?
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morgan magana wrote:need car class on a 1994 bmw 318is slotted rotors with stock calipers aftermarket pads. engine only has lightweightflywheel and clutch. stock wheels


also i planning on attenting an event tomorro what are rules on a crack in window i have attended events before with my old car and was told if its not view obstructing?
The flywheel puts you in Street Prepared.
Can't remember which year is which, but the 16v 318 is in DSP and the 8v is in FSP.
The crack would have to be pretty bad for you to fail tech inspection.
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