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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:35 am
by Rick Brown
KJ Christopher wrote:Rick,
I'm having trouble following why we want to make the RTR/RTA/RTF class letters different for our local region than the national events. Seems confusing to me. How are you going to differentiate between the different classes in the system if you don't have the Rear/Front/AWD designation? If we have an Integra Type R or MS3 and a BMW 128i or 335i show up, they would both be DSK cars, but wouldn't be competing against each other (unless they were both Novices), as ITR and MS3 is RTF and the BMWs are RTR.
I'm only talking about Novice. The only relevant info beyond NOV is the base class, not some other possible indexed class the car could be in. In NOV it can be any other class plus SSK through HSK to allow for stock cars on street tires.
If someone is running in RTR/RTA/RTF then that is their class letters plus the appropriate stock class.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:11 pm
by Jayson Woodruff
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Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:35 pm
by Steve Alexander
No one ever agrees here... it is a cluster f***. whatever class letters you put on your car, there will always be someone telling you to change it. Oh, and don't bother to make sensible suggestions; the system is firmly entrenched.
With my unclasifiable car, I just race with the other clubs, like PCA, where "X" class covers all the square pegs, and the organizers are not so anal.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:41 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Steve Alexander wrote:No one ever agrees here... it is a cluster f***. whatever class letters you put on your car, there will always be someone telling you to change it. Oh, and don't bother to make sensible suggestions; the system is firmly entrenched.
With my unclasifiable car, I just race with the other clubs, like PCA, where "X" class covers all the square pegs, and the organizers are not so anal.
Sour grapes much?
I'm sorry if you had a bad experience and you are entitled to have your opinion, but there are two sides to every story. Several of us tried helping you and you countered many of our suggestions. Yes, we have a lot of rules, but we all here choose to play by them and we would like those who wish to participate with us to play by the same rules.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:31 pm
by Mako Koiwai
@ Steve ...
This IS a National Organization. Without closely supervised rules how else do you have National events and Championships where results are decided by the Thousandth of a second?! Regionally we DO have "Run What You Brung" classes that cover most everyone's vehicle.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:00 pm
by Jayson Woodruff
Don't feed the troll.
Jay W
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:14 pm
by Steve Alexander
Rules are fine, as long as they are clear and apply to everyone equally, which they absolutely are not, in my experience with this organization. When I tried to play the game, I got the royal shaft from king KJ....yes, I am bitter about it.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:22 am
by Ed Holley
Steve Alexander wrote:Rules are fine, as long as they are clear and apply to everyone equally, which they absolutely are not, in my experience with this organization. When I tried to play the game, I got the royal shaft from king KJ....yes, I am bitter about it.
"We wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas...we WISH you a Merry Christmas...and a Happy New Year." SERIOUSLY!
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:24 pm
by Steve Alexander
Thanks Ed, and a merry Christmas to you too.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:01 pm
by Joe Macasero
Hi everyone,
I'd like to begin autocrossing in 2013 and was hoping you all could help me class my car
95 Civic 3DR DX
D15B7 (stock motor) however has the camshaft from a CRX Si
92-95 Civic EX Transmission
AEM short ram intake
stock exhaust manifold/cat/piping/muffler
two front seats however the rear is completely gutted, no plastic paneling or seats.
14" wheels with regular old passenger vehicle tires
Any help is appreciated!! Thank you in advance.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:31 pm
by Robert Puertas
CST
Joe Macasero wrote:Hi everyone,
I'd like to begin autocrossing in 2013 and was hoping you all could help me class my car
95 Civic 3DR DX
D15B7 (stock motor) however has the camshaft from a CRX Si
92-95 Civic EX Transmission
AEM short ram intake
stock exhaust manifold/cat/piping/muffler
two front seats however the rear is completely gutted, no plastic paneling or seats.
14" wheels with regular old passenger vehicle tires
Any help is appreciated!! Thank you in advance.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:14 pm
by Anthony P.
I have a friend with a c250. It's an 11 or 12 model year. Any idea what class? I can only find the c300's
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:24 pm
by Q V
Anthony Porta wrote:I have a friend with a c250. It's an 11 or 12 model year. Any idea what class? I can only find the c300's
Mercedes c250? If it's not listed for any other stock class, it falls under "Mercedes NOC (Not Otherwise Classified)" in H Stock.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:22 pm
by Anthony P.
Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Anthony Porta wrote:I have a friend with a c250. It's an 11 or 12 model year. Any idea what class? I can only find the c300's
Mercedes c250? If it's not listed for any other stock class, it falls under "Mercedes NOC (Not Otherwise Classified)" in H Stock.
sweet thats what i was hoping for. Maybe he will let me borrow it this year. }:)
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:54 pm
by Rick Brown
A-Mod right?
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:56 pm
by Robert Puertas
Rick Brown wrote:A-Mod right?
CST if it's licensed!
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:48 pm
by David Barrish
Is it pre-85 or post 85.
It looks like a '77.
X wing or battle star?
Historic 2 index for sure.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:36 pm
by Rick Brown
David Barrish wrote:Is it pre-85 or post 85.
It looks like a '77.
X wing or battle star?
Historic 2 index for sure.
BattleStar is the mother ship, that's a Viper. First made in '78.
But appears to have modified suspension. Think it originally had skids instead of wheels.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:53 pm
by KJ Christopher
Funny, I was toying with the idea of naming my car the Colonial Viper for a while. Actually changed my signature. Then decided on ACME Special.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:26 pm
by Byron Goodman
Is it OK to pull a fuse to make the laser cannons are no longer functional? Also, if thrust knocks over cones, does that count as a penalty?
-B
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:27 am
by Ed Holley
Rick Brown wrote:A-Mod right?
It can run in ES as long as we can come to some kind of "agreement".
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:41 am
by Leonard Cachola
Ed Holley wrote:
It can run in ES as long as we can come to some kind of "agreement".
Speaking of agreements, I know of a stock MINI on street tires looking for more competition. Maybe you two could work something out?
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:47 am
by Ed Holley
Leonard Cachola wrote:Ed Holley wrote:
It can run in ES as long as we can come to some kind of "agreement".
Speaking of agreements, I know of a stock MINI on street tires looking for more competition. Maybe you two could work something out?
Don't start! We're doing so well.
And the answer is "NO!" if it's a BLACK MINI that is just getting used to chasing a SOLSTICE.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:12 am
by Rick Brown
Ed Holley wrote:Rick Brown wrote:A-Mod right?
It can run in ES as long as we can come to some kind of "agreement".
I promise to not rev the engines too high if you're behind me in grid.
Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:10 pm
by Bobby Beyer
Does that car need to use the targeting system to avoid the cones or are you supposed to, "use the force"?