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What size rims do Miatas run?Steve Ekstrand wrote: They just don't make too many 15-16 inch rim race tires that will fit on narrow stock rims. I don't think a 275-50-15 Hoosier will work on a 15x7 rim for example.
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It depends on the year. The first gen Miata's ('90-'93) ran 14 x 5.5, except for some of the special editions that used 14 x 6. Most of the '94-'97 Miata's used 14 x 6 wheels, but some special editions used 15 x 6. '99-'00 used 14 x 6 and 15 x 6, IIRC, the '01+ used 16 x 6.5 on the Sport models.Blanco .. wrote:What size rims do Miatas run?Steve Ekstrand wrote: They just don't make too many 15-16 inch rim race tires that will fit on narrow stock rims. I don't think a 275-50-15 Hoosier will work on a 15x7 rim for example.
This is, of course, all from memory as I'm at work, it's 4am, and I didn't get much sleep during the day.
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That's pretty close for just off memory:David Avard wrote:It depends on the year. The first gen Miata's ('90-'93) ran 14 x 5.5, except for some of the special editions that used 14 x 6. Most of the '94-'97 Miata's used 14 x 6 wheels, but some special editions used 15 x 6. '99-'00 used 14 x 6 and 15 x 6, IIRC, the '01+ used 16 x 6.5 on the Sport models.Blanco .. wrote:What size rims do Miatas run?Steve Ekstrand wrote: They just don't make too many 15-16 inch rim race tires that will fit on narrow stock rims. I don't think a 275-50-15 Hoosier will work on a 15x7 rim for example.
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What about a fiberglass bodied Myers Manx VW Buggy?
I think it would fit in HS Class?
This is a very light weight kit car....
I've had my eye on one I could buy for a very long time now.
I think it would fit in HS Class?
This is a very light weight kit car....
I've had my eye on one I could buy for a very long time now.
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kit car and Stock class are mutually exclusive.Blanco .. wrote:
I think it would fit in HS Class?
This is a very light weight kit car....
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My comments about tire available were about the larger tires needed to run in FS with an old mustang.
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Marshall Grice wrote:kit car and Stock class are mutually exclusive.Blanco .. wrote:
I think it would fit in HS Class?
This is a very light weight kit car....
I guess I need to read more....... But where would a Manx Buggy fit in?
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Mod, maybe A Mod. Most A Mod cars look like this:Blanco .. wrote:Marshall Grice wrote:kit car and Stock class are mutually exclusive.Blanco .. wrote:
I think it would fit in HS Class?
This is a very light weight kit car....
I guess I need to read more....... But where would a Manx Buggy fit in?
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well, i don't know how good of an example that is. Kinda "EXTREME!" with the multi-element wing..Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Mod, maybe A Mod. Most A Mod cars look like this:
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Never mind then, I have no interest in trying compete against that.
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We have a local class called CSM ... California Street Mod ... where you can run pretty much anything, that I believe is licensed for the street. Typically you'll want to run R tires to be competitive. Go to http://www.solo2.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and look at Past Results on the left to see which cars are running in CSM
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Most AM cars I've seen in person or pictures -- might be the same 3 -- look like that, including the multi-element wing.Jeff Shyu wrote:well, i don't know how good of an example that is. Kinda "EXTREME!" with the multi-element wing..Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Mod, maybe A Mod. Most A Mod cars look like this:
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You could run a Manx in CSM potentially. Keep it lower to the ground than it would be for dune cruising.Mako Koiwai wrote:We have a local class called CSM ... California Street Mod ... where you can run pretty much anything, that I believe is licensed for the street. Typically you'll want to run R tires to be competitive. Go to http://www.solo2.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and look at Past Results on the left to see which cars are running in CSM
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George Bowland's 2001 A Mod design:
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Geez, that thing looks like a snowplow on steroids!
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Might use a three-cylinder snowmobile engine. Steve O'Blenes' car does.Kurt Rahn wrote:Geez, that thing looks like a snowplow on steroids!
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Steriods and Weight Watchers----900lbs with Driver!!!!Kurt Rahn wrote:Geez, that thing looks like a snowplow on steroids!
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What type of g forces does it develop?
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I know an old 125 shifter that could be picked up cheap.
It has an extended front porch and large seat and was set up for somebody 6'-2" and 225 lbs.
It was pretty darn fast the last time I drove it. Probably needs a little work, but it would be a very inexpensive way to get going very fast in the sport.
It has an extended front porch and large seat and was set up for somebody 6'-2" and 225 lbs.
It was pretty darn fast the last time I drove it. Probably needs a little work, but it would be a very inexpensive way to get going very fast in the sport.
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it can do 3+ g's in a slalom.
i dont know about the other directions.
BTW that vw kit thing would fit in BM anyways. it has fenders. either way it would still get killed
i dont know about the other directions.
BTW that vw kit thing would fit in BM anyways. it has fenders. either way it would still get killed
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Sitting right next to the kart are two other cars for sale:
1985 Toyota MR2 - blown head gasket, otherwise pretty clean.
1972 Honda 600 coupe - frozen brake cylinder, otherwise pretty clean.
I think my friend Dave would like to get $1k each, or $2500 for all 3.
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I think my friend Dave would like to get $1k each, or $2500 for all 3.
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Are the side skirts aero aids? Does it go that quick?Christine Berry wrote:George Bowland's 2001 A Mod design:
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yes. and yes.KJ Christopher wrote:Are the side skirts aero aids? Does it go that quick?Christine Berry wrote:George Bowland's 2001 A Mod design:
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that car has paxed #1 at nationals (multiple times?).
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Clearly, the A-Mod PAX is wrong!Marshall Grice wrote:...that car has paxed #1 at nationals (multiple times?).