Another Civic Question

Kurt Rahn · Post by **Kurt Rahn** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:39 pm

So how come people seem to prefer the 4th gen (1988-91) Civics over the 5th gen (1992-95) version? Did the car get much porker or something?

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:10 pm

EF's are just cooler!

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:16 pm

The Pro Finale last year had us a little concerned. But spec class returned to normal during the week.

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:43 pm

yes, they're heavier.

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:09 pm

Steve Ekstrand wrote:EF's are just cooler!

OK..OK...ill agree on something with steve...EF's ARE COOLER!!!

Weight is a huge factor in our class...Stephen and I are significantly slower when one of us is driving and the the other is in the passenger seat...this is why we take so much video and data...we do bench racing at home and watch the video and go over data till our heads spin or one of us falls asleep

...not to mention the car is balanced for each of our weights

CO'mon HOW COOL IS THIS!!!

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:47 pm

Car looks REALLY good.... But the four digit number is freaking me out.

And weight matters.... That's what I been trying to tell ya' to explain that El Toro crushing (and maybe alignment too?).

Write the SEB! All ST cars should be ballasted to equalize to a 300lbs driver.

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:51 pm

I'm thinking take their paint scheme and sub out the black for Teal and the Red for Bubblegum Pink Pearl!!!

Jeff Shyu · Post by **Jeff Shyu** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:58 pm

Steve Ekstrand wrote: Write the SEB! All ST cars should be ballasted to equalize to a 300lbs driver.

you guys should all let my 120lb ass drive your cars.. >_>

Post by **Bill Schenker** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:11 pm

Jason Flores wrote:
...not to mention the car is balanced for each of our weights

How do manage that if you weigh differently?

Stephen Yeoh · Post by **Stephen Yeoh** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:46 pm

Bill Schenker wrote:
Jason Flores wrote:
...not to mention the car is balanced for each of our weights
How do manage that if you weigh differently?

I get to eat all the dessert I want the night before

Kurt Rahn · Post by **Kurt Rahn** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:27 pm

Steve Ekstrand wrote:I'm thinking take their paint scheme and sub out the black for Teal and the Red for Bubblegum Pink Pearl!!!

I like the way you're thinking. If you're gonna do something, go 110%!

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:07 pm

Bill Schenker wrote:
Jason Flores wrote:
...not to mention the car is balanced for each of our weights
How do manage that if you weigh differently?

funny story... we are within 3-5lbs of each others depending on the day..weird huh? works out ok though..im the heavier so Stephen stuffs his face at his favorite chocolate dessert places here in the Inland Empire Saturday nights before the event..

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:17 am

In the Civic, I can't see how 6lbs could matter much on your cross weights unless your seating position was way different.

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:45 am

Steve Ekstrand wrote:In the Civic, I can't see how 6lbs could matter much on your cross weights unless your seating position was way different.

Yup thats why it works....we are close to the same weight so there is no adjustment needed between drivers... ;)

Sebastian Rios · Post by **Sebastian Rios** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:52 am

I pulled the trigger on some shaved stones and 15x7 Enkei RPF-1s...Now I have to convince Shauna that we need more RPF-1s so we can switch fronts between runs!

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:05 am

Sebastian Rios wrote:I pulled the trigger on some shaved stones and 15x7 Enkei RPF-1s...Now I have to convince Shauna that we need more RPF-1s so we can switch fronts between runs!

Thats awesome Seb....cant wait to see the car in action after nationals!!!

Britt Dollmeyer · Post by **Britt Dollmeyer** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:02 pm

Check out a few of the 2007 issues of Grassroots Motorsports. They built a 92 EG to the STS rules and when finished compared it to Mike King's 89 EF...the results were really, really close. Go for it, STS needs some more variation. BTW, EF's are cooler.

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:19 pm

why settle for very very close when you can just build a 240z and go kick everyone's butt?

John Coffey · Post by **John Coffey** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:27 pm

why settle for very very close when you can just build a 240z and go kick everyone's butt?

I obviously missed something here. A 240Z in STS? Maybe you mean a 240SX?

Christine Grice · Post by **Christine Grice** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:35 pm

He means this car:

Bob Beamesderfer · Post by **Bob Beamesderfer** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:03 pm

The J-Rho 240 SX is pretty exceptional. Actually, it's the ex-J-Rho car if he sold it.

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:03 pm

Didn't JRho later take that Splitter off? I'm trying to figure out just what the STS aero rules are....
It pretty much sounds like I can reduce the rear factory wing to a toy car size and then add a front splitter of 4.98 sq ft looking down from the top of the car (which given the bumper trim over hang far above the splitter would make for a quite large splitter). And of course, you could INCREASE and raise the bumper overhang under the body kit rules. In other words you could go aero crazy to a degree you can't really do in any other class than AM.
The no aero effect language is so vague as to be viewed by lawyer types as classic rambling dicta with no legal power. Simanyi!!!! What gives.

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:05 pm

John Coffey wrote:
why settle for very very close when you can just build a 240z and go kick everyone's butt?
I obviously missed something here. A 240Z in STS? Maybe you mean a 240SX?

heh. yeah my bad. i was way off.

Sebastian Rios · Post by **Sebastian Rios** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:11 pm

Steve Ekstrand wrote: The no aero effect language is so vague as to be viewed by lawyer types as classic rambling dicta with no legal power. Simanyi!!!! What gives.

I'm tellin' ya man there is something there, I'm going to get a "Battle" body kit and go nuts you can get cheapies for like ten bucks! Now that I have a Civic my ricer side is begging to be let loose.

John Coffey · Post by **John Coffey** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:50 pm

heh. yeah my bad. i was way off.

Don't be getting my hopes up. I was already planning a 2,100lb, 225hp STS class killer...

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