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Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:44 am
by Mako Koiwai
What would method would you choose for a track Miata?

Do SuperCharged engine use an Intercooler? I'm thinking those Super Charger Kits for Miatas. Some advertise that one doesn't need a tune after installing

Not looking for ultimate power, ie. not changing internals ... yet. Just for a nice increase in power

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:59 am
by Rick Brown
Mako to wrote: Just for a nice increase in power
Um,,,,,, drive the Vette? :lol:

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:15 am
by Max Hayter
I thought about supercharging my NA Miata, but never quite got to grips with spending as much on the S/C as the car cost me.

Check out Track Dog Racing for kits for the NB. That's where I would have bought my kit, had I decided to cough up the cash.

Intercoolers etc and further upgrades purely depend on how much power you add.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:28 pm
by Steve Lepper
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Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:03 pm
by Arthur Grant
Check with Stanley Kowalski, he runs one mita turbo charged, and one of his mitas super charged. Believe he has a spare super charger set up available.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:07 pm
by Max Hayter
Arthur Grant wrote:Check with Stanley Kowalski, he runs one mita turbo charged, and one of his mitas super charged. Believe he has a spare super charger set up available.
I think he sells them on his website... barbie giggles dot com. Check it out Mako.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:17 pm
by Mako Koiwai
?! everything there is NA ;)

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:29 pm
by Bill Schenker
Mako to wrote:?! everything there is NA ;)

May I suggest Karen does some research there? :thumbup:

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:38 pm
by Michael Palero
Max, Bill... I didn't find any forced induction.
All I found were a bunch of those JDM/Drift style shift knobs
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Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:43 pm
by Bill Schenker
Michael Palero wrote:Max, Bill... I didn't find any forced induction.
All I found were a bunch of those JDM/Drift style shift knobs
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Yes, the textured orange one would work quite well.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:01 pm
by Arthur Grant
Bill Schenker wrote:
Michael Palero wrote:Max, Bill... I didn't find any forced induction.
All I found were a bunch of those JDM/Drift style shift knobs
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Yes, the textured orange one would work quite well.
Don't let QV see that, Don wont forgive you.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:05 pm
by Bill Schenker
Arthur Grant wrote:
Bill Schenker wrote:
Michael Palero wrote:Max, Bill... I didn't find any forced induction.
All I found were a bunch of those JDM/Drift style shift knobs
IMG_2973.jpg
Yes, the textured orange one would work quite well.
Don't let QV see that, Don wont forgive you.
I'm sure he can hide it somewhere...

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:01 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
There is a long skinny pedal on the right side of the drivers footwell that when substantially depressed for long periods of time around a road course will increase the relative speed of the vehicle.

It costs only increased fuel consumption and tire wear when used appropriately. }:) :computer: }:)

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:54 am
by Mako Koiwai
those "long periods" aren't long enough in a NA Miata!

btw, our long pedal is now also fat ... added an extension for easier heel and toeing.

We're going out to WSR to see Isley and Royle racing tomorrow

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:01 am
by Don Salyers
Mako to wrote:those "long periods" aren't long enough in a NA Miata!

btw, our long pedal is now also fat ... added an extension for easier heel and toeing.

We're going out to WSR to see Isley and Royle racing tomorrow
On Saturday they may need snow tires---

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But Sunday should be good----I was going out to see the Sprites beat-up on the new boxes. 7 cars are entered in HP from what I hear and almost an even split between really old (British), almost old (Box Honda, etc) and new (Yaris etc)

Don

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:11 am
by Marshall Grice
Mako to wrote:those "long periods" aren't long enough in a NA Miata!

btw, our long pedal is now also fat ... added an extension for easier heel and toeing.

We're going out to WSR to see Isley and Royle racing tomorrow
I'd venture a guess and say you'll end up spending more money in the long run trying to turbo/super charge the miata then you would just driving the vette for and equivalent amount of performance.

you WILL blow up the motor trying to track a worn out stock motor with huge power adders.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:27 pm
by Q V
Arthur Grant wrote:Don't let QV see that, Don wont forgive you.
TOO LATE! It's on the list of things to order! :-D

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:38 pm
by Bill Schenker
Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:
Arthur Grant wrote:Don't let QV see that, Don wont forgive you.
TOO LATE! It's on the list of things to order! :-D
Max told me to tell you not to forget to order the special cream at the same time...

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:08 pm
by Toby Larsson
Marshall Grice wrote:
Mako to wrote:those "long periods" aren't long enough in a NA Miata!

btw, our long pedal is now also fat ... added an extension for easier heel and toeing.

We're going out to WSR to see Isley and Royle racing tomorrow
I'd venture a guess and say you'll end up spending more money in the long run trying to turbo/super charge the miata then you would just driving the vette for and equivalent amount of performance.

you WILL blow up the motor trying to track a worn out stock motor with huge power adders.
+1

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:36 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Can you run Isley's Yaris times in the Miata? I doubt the Yaris has very much power.

I tracked with 800hp Vipers. They were stunning on the straights. Thundered by my Neon like I was standing still on the back straight at WSR. Then I rode their tale through 8-9 then they disappeared on the front straight. Who cares. Holding with them in the turns is what its all about.

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:08 pm
by Mako Koiwai
The Miata we might be charging ... and not until next year's season ... wouldn't be Karen's "old" Miata. }:)

It would be a relatively young, prepared racing Miata with full safety gear/cage. ;) Yeah ... hard to go even 9/10th without the right gear. :?

Yeah, Yeah ... not going to be comparing myself with Isley. btw. Jason and Philip are overnighting in Lancaster tonight, so that they don't have to deal with going "over" the 14 tomorrow morning.

I would be worried about racing tires in freezing conditions! Not good for that rubber ... besides there being No Way for them to get any heat in those tires. High of 37 tomorrow in Rosamond!?

Re: Super or Turbo Charge for NA Miata

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:58 pm
by Mako Koiwai
Ended up being a nice if not cool day at Willow Springs. Nice seeing Philip, Jason, Oli, Renee and the Jardines.

Check out the sequence of Kyle drifting his Z06 in front of Oli.

Photos: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/2011-r ... cca-willo/

Jason's new 13 wheels/slicks. Corded in one day!
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