July Fastrack
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Re: July Fastrack
Man, that's a lot to digest! I applaud the committees' hard work.
My $.02
Mini JCW to DS: I dunno, sure seems like if the regular Minis weren't on the way out, they are now for sure.
ST*: Awsome! I can't wait to get rid of my rear drum brakes, and get a new cat 6" further downstream.
STF? Hmmm we'll see if anyone makes a serious effort, I have a feeling it will be the car with the most aftermarket support wins until people start going nuts with custom stuff (after a jacket and contingency is on the line).
SP: Who needs a co-driver in their 997? Have trailer, will travel. ;)
My $.02
Mini JCW to DS: I dunno, sure seems like if the regular Minis weren't on the way out, they are now for sure.
ST*: Awsome! I can't wait to get rid of my rear drum brakes, and get a new cat 6" further downstream.
STF? Hmmm we'll see if anyone makes a serious effort, I have a feeling it will be the car with the most aftermarket support wins until people start going nuts with custom stuff (after a jacket and contingency is on the line).
SP: Who needs a co-driver in their 997? Have trailer, will travel. ;)
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Re: July Fastrack
SM solid axle weight break?
Cool! My RX3 with the Cosworth duratec only has to weigh 1750 now...
Cool! My RX3 with the Cosworth duratec only has to weigh 1750 now...
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Re: July Fastrack
2.5l 06-08 WRX in STX? Anyone still driving one?
Re: July Fastrack
They'll definitely be getting a letter from me on this one. Can't imagine I'll be the only one. Seems pretty ludicrous if it's better suspended, has more power and has always run in a higher class than the regular Cooper S. What's next, throw the Justa Cooper in DS as well?FasTrack wrote:Move from CS to DS (2487, 4744):
Mini Cooper S JCW (2006-’11)
Mini Clubman S JCW (2009-’11)
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Oversteer is better than understeer because you don't see the tree you're hitting.
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Re: July Fastrack
Are the newer JCW's factory-built? I know the first-gen cars were a dealer-installed kit.
Oh, and Elva Courier in SSP? Knife to a gunfight, anyone?
I see that now the rest of ST classes get to enjoy swapping out our exhaust every two years. At least now I can build a better header.
They now need to remove 14.10.F.6, since they've thrown emission compliance out the window.
Oh, and Elva Courier in SSP? Knife to a gunfight, anyone?
I see that now the rest of ST classes get to enjoy swapping out our exhaust every two years. At least now I can build a better header.
They now need to remove 14.10.F.6, since they've thrown emission compliance out the window.
Re: July Fastrack
Yes. But so are the BMW M series, the Audi S series, the AMG Mercedes, etc. They're all tuner cars, and IMO they shouldn't be allowed to compete against the "regular" cars whose performance they were designed and built to exceed in every facet.Steve Lepper wrote:Are the newer JCW's factory-built? I know the first-gen cars were a dealer-installed kit.
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Oversteer is better than understeer because you don't see the tree you're hitting.
Oversteer is better than understeer because you don't see the tree you're hitting.
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Re: July Fastrack
I must resist any reference to the words Historic and Vintage.
I Must!
Why bother, it only ends up a "forest and tree" conversation.
I would like to see a Tesla vs Elan.
David Barrish
Street Prepared Class S-Super (SSP)
Chevrolet
Corvette (‘97-’04) (C5 Chassis)
Corvette (‘05-’11) (C6 Chassis)
Dodge
Viper
Elva
Courier
Ferrari
355
360
Dino 206 & 246 (all)
F430 (all)
Ford
GT
Griffith
(all)
Lotus
7 & 7A
Elan (RWD)
Elan M100(FWD, all)
Europa (all)
SCCA FasTrack News July 2011 Page 17
Elise, Exige, & Exige S (‘05-’11)
Elite 2+2 & Elcat
Esprit (4-cyl, all)
Esprit (V8)
Morgan
V8 all
+4 (2138cc, all)
Nissan
GT-R (R35)
Porsche
911 Turbo (AWD) ‘01-’11
911 GT2 (996 & 997, all)
911 GT3 (996 & 997, all)
Tesla
Roadster (‘08-’11)
TVR
4-cyl & 6-cyl (all)
V8 (all)
Sports cars over 2.0L not otherwise classified.
(See section 15.1.C for update/backdate limitations
I Must!
Why bother, it only ends up a "forest and tree" conversation.
I would like to see a Tesla vs Elan.
David Barrish
Street Prepared Class S-Super (SSP)
Chevrolet
Corvette (‘97-’04) (C5 Chassis)
Corvette (‘05-’11) (C6 Chassis)
Dodge
Viper
Elva
Courier
Ferrari
355
360
Dino 206 & 246 (all)
F430 (all)
Ford
GT
Griffith
(all)
Lotus
7 & 7A
Elan (RWD)
Elan M100(FWD, all)
Europa (all)
SCCA FasTrack News July 2011 Page 17
Elise, Exige, & Exige S (‘05-’11)
Elite 2+2 & Elcat
Esprit (4-cyl, all)
Esprit (V8)
Morgan
V8 all
+4 (2138cc, all)
Nissan
GT-R (R35)
Porsche
911 Turbo (AWD) ‘01-’11
911 GT2 (996 & 997, all)
911 GT3 (996 & 997, all)
Tesla
Roadster (‘08-’11)
TVR
4-cyl & 6-cyl (all)
V8 (all)
Sports cars over 2.0L not otherwise classified.
(See section 15.1.C for update/backdate limitations
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Re: July Fastrack
I would take an '06 "TR" for STX, I still think it needs more wheel though, even if handicapped by 245 section width tires. Although I think the later GD chassis 2.5l cars got a marginally stronger trans, I think one would still have to save pennies for transmission(s) and hoard stock rear diffs.Greg Peng wrote:2.5l 06-08 WRX in STX? Anyone still driving one?
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Re: July Fastrack
If memory serves only the first year was a trunk kit, other's were 'factory'. shrug.Steve Lepper wrote:Are the newer JCW's factory-built? I know the first-gen cars were a dealer-installed kit.
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Re: July Fastrack
ASP
Ferrari
250 (non-LM)
So, I can run my 250GTO, but my mid engine car's a no go? Doesn't seem fair, somehow...
Seriously...getting rid of the no CEL bit in ST* is opening the proverbial Pandora's Box, if you ask me...not that anyone asked me...
Ferrari
250 (non-LM)
So, I can run my 250GTO, but my mid engine car's a no go? Doesn't seem fair, somehow...
Seriously...getting rid of the no CEL bit in ST* is opening the proverbial Pandora's Box, if you ask me...not that anyone asked me...
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Re: July Fastrack
How insane would you have to be to autocross a 250LM?Michael Wood wrote:ASP
Ferrari
250 (non-LM)
So, I can run my 250GTO, but my mid engine car's a no go? Doesn't seem fair, somehow...
Clearly a 250 SWB alloy coupe would be the far superior autocross car.
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Re: July Fastrack
We test drove a 2011 Mini and the first thing the sales man told us (we did not say a word about Auto-X) was how the Mini S is so perfectly classed for SCCA National and Pro Solo competition. Good thing that all the new car buyers at the Mini dealership check FastTrack before spending money on a car that was well classed.Kurt Ra wrote:They'll definitely be getting a letter from me on this one. Can't imagine I'll be the only one. Seems pretty ludicrous if it's better suspended, has more power and has always run in a higher class than the regular Cooper S. What's next, throw the Justa Cooper in DS as well?FasTrack wrote:Move from CS to DS (2487, 4744):
Mini Cooper S JCW (2006-’11)
Mini Clubman S JCW (2009-’11)
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Re: July Fastrack
Looking for input from someone who understands the Fastrack Lingo.
So does this mean, it's being implemented as previously listed (my letter raised issue with wording, and intent), or that the proposal has been retracted... or, or, or???
Such a vague response based upon the subject not being addressed in any manor later in the document.
My letter was #4561. I wrote in regarding the sound proposal of a few months ago, as did at least two other people based upon this line. But there was no mention of the sound proposal anywhere else in the Fastrack.GENERAL
- The SEB has reviewed the following items, and thanks these members for their input:
- Sound policy feedback (4561, 4567, 4918)
So does this mean, it's being implemented as previously listed (my letter raised issue with wording, and intent), or that the proposal has been retracted... or, or, or???
Such a vague response based upon the subject not being addressed in any manor later in the document.
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Re: July Fastrack
it means "thanks we looked at it and are ignoring it"Craig Naylor wrote:Looking for input from someone who understands the Fastrack Lingo.
My letter was #4561. I wrote in regarding the sound proposal of a few months ago, as did at least two other people based upon this line. But there was no mention of the sound proposal anywhere else in the Fastrack.GENERAL
- The SEB has reviewed the following items, and thanks these members for their input:
- Sound policy feedback (4561, 4567, 4918)
So does this mean, it's being implemented as previously listed (my letter raised issue with wording, and intent), or that the proposal has been retracted... or, or, or???
Such a vague response based upon the subject not being addressed in any manor later in the document.
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Re: July Fastrack
That's what I thought. I was hoping that it meant something more like, we haven't included an update in this fastrack because the responders had such useful input we went back to the drawing board.Marshall Grice wrote:it means "thanks we looked at it and are ignoring it"
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Re: July Fastrack
I think Pandora's box was opened when catalytic converters were allowed to be consolidated and/or removed, and ECU modifications were made legal. The no CEL rule was a lame attempt to close Pandora's box, or put the genie back in the bottle, or close the barn door after the horse has bolted, or (insert favorite idiom here).Michael Wood wrote:
Seriously...getting rid of the no CEL bit in ST* is opening the proverbial Pandora's Box, if you ask me...not that anyone asked me...
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Re: July Fastrack
"Unring the bell that has already rung"Sebastian Rios wrote:(insert favorite idiom here).
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"Get yer high-flow race cats here!..."Sebastian Rios wrote:I think Pandora's box was opened when catalytic converters were allowed to be consolidated and/or removed, and ECU modifications were made legal. The no CEL rule was a lame attempt to close Pandora's box, or put the genie back in the bottle, or close the barn door after the horse has bolted, or (insert favorite idiom here).Michael Wood wrote:
Seriously...getting rid of the no CEL bit in ST* is opening the proverbial Pandora's Box, if you ask me...not that anyone asked me...
Rick
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Re: July Fastrack
And "non-functional" aero bits.Richard Jung wrote: "Get yer high-flow race cats here!..."
Rick
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;) - ;)Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:And "non-functional" aero bits.Richard Jung wrote: "Get yer high-flow race cats here!..."
Rick
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Re: July Fastrack
Why is it that I never use the things I hoard, and never hoard the things I use? Man, I wish I never sold that nice high flow cat I got from you.Richard Jung wrote:
"Get yer high-flow race cats here!..."
Rick
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Re: July Fastrack
I have more in stock, still popular with the STX/STU crowd. Will 2.5" I/O dia work for ST/STS?Sebastian Rios wrote:Why is it that I never use the things I hoard, and never hoard the things I use? Man, I wish I never sold that nice high flow cat I got from you.Richard Jung wrote:
"Get yer high-flow race cats here!..."
Rick
Re: July Fastrack
Letter sent. Letter #5298. Let's see how/if they respond.Doug Teulie wrote:We test drove a 2011 Mini and the first thing the sales man told us (we did not say a word about Auto-X) was how the Mini S is so perfectly classed for SCCA National and Pro Solo competition. Good thing that all the new car buyers at the Mini dealership check FastTrack before spending money on a car that was well classed.Kurt Ra wrote:They'll definitely be getting a letter from me on this one. Can't imagine I'll be the only one. Seems pretty ludicrous if it's better suspended, has more power and has always run in a higher class than the regular Cooper S. What's next, throw the Justa Cooper in DS as well?FasTrack wrote:Move from CS to DS (2487, 4744):
Mini Cooper S JCW (2006-’11)
Mini Clubman S JCW (2009-’11)
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Oversteer is better than understeer because you don't see the tree you're hitting.
Oversteer is better than understeer because you don't see the tree you're hitting.
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Re: July Fastrack
One thing to point out on letters, they are all read and discussed at the committee level.
Don't interpret the line item in Fastrack as purely a "duly noted" kind of response...
On the Mini JCW, write your letters.
Don't interpret the line item in Fastrack as purely a "duly noted" kind of response...
On the Mini JCW, write your letters.