2013 PAX/RTP Released

[Leonard Cachola]

Let the bench racing begin!

http://home.comcast.net/~paxrtp/rtp2013.html

[Leonard Cachola]

... and here's an updated version of my local PAX calculator:

http://www.lcachola.com/2013PAX.html

[Davin Swanson]

Looks like there's been a shift of pretty much every class up. The only class that went down looks to be BSP and a handful stay the same (ES, FSP, SMF, GP, EM, FSAE). Everyone else went up.

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

[Kurt Rahn]

Looks like there's been a shift of pretty much every class up. The only class that went down looks to be BSP and a handful stay the same (ES, FSP, SMF, GP, EM, FSAE). Everyone else went up.

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

Not if Tim A. keeps driving the way he is }:)

[Mako Koiwai]

For our local "fun" RT classes ... will they at least informally run together, even if the results are split up? Perhaps there could be a local RT Combined Championship?

[Kurt Rahn]

For our local "fun" RT classes ... will they at least informally run together, even if the results are split up? Perhaps there could be a local RT Combined Championship?

It'd have to be voted on by the eBoard. I'm going to request that at least RTA and RTF be allowed to run together, since neither will be very well subscribed. RTR should have no problems making class, in fact, I'm pretty sure the fields will be bigger than either SK1 or SK2.

[Mako Koiwai]

A Super RT Championship would be a nice weighty achievement, but all of the RT cars would have to run together for it to be fair, which I can imagine might be a run group issue.

[Vincent Wong]

Looks like there's been a shift of pretty much every class up. The only class that went down looks to be BSP and a handful stay the same (ES, FSP, SMF, GP, EM, FSAE). Everyone else went up.

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

Not if Tim A. keeps driving the way he is }:)

You need to be more specific on the "A" initial. Aing in BS S2000, Albin in CS Solstice (and I think he needs to run in PAX). }:)

[Kurt Rahn]

Looks like there's been a shift of pretty much every class up. The only class that went down looks to be BSP and a handful stay the same (ES, FSP, SMF, GP, EM, FSAE). Everyone else went up.

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

Not if Tim A. keeps driving the way he is }:)

You need to be more specific on the "A" initial. Aing in BS S2000, Albin in CS Solstice (and I think he needs to run in PAX). }:)

Good point! I was talking about Tim Albin, who has absolutely decimated the rest of the field the last two events (the first two he's run in SK2).

[Max Hayter]

Tim Albin must be best pals with Rick Ruth, methinks!

[KJ Christopher]

For our local "fun" RT classes ... will they at least informally run together, even if the results are split up? Perhaps there could be a local RT Combined Championship?

It'd have to be voted on by the eBoard. I'm going to request that at least RTA and RTF be allowed to run together, since neither will be very well subscribed. RTR should have no problems making class, in fact, I'm pretty sure the fields will be bigger than either SK1 or SK2.

This isn't a board issue. It is a group balancing issue.

[Kurt Rahn]

For our local "fun" RT classes ... will they at least informally run together, even if the results are split up? Perhaps there could be a local RT Combined Championship?

It'd have to be voted on by the eBoard. I'm going to request that at least RTA and RTF be allowed to run together, since neither will be very well subscribed. RTR should have no problems making class, in fact, I'm pretty sure the fields will be bigger than either SK1 or SK2.

This isn't a board issue. It is a group balancing issue.

Actually, I meant not just run with each other but against each other (like CPM unless one of the prep/mod classes makes a full class). That would have to go to the eBoard, right?

[David Barrish]

Time for "I" Stock.

Like, I "not" front wheeled drive. Opened to refugees from "H" Stock.

[Bobby Beyer]

^ Isn't that called STF

Kinda surprised with the bump to STF, I don't think there has been enough fully developed cars to make the claim yet.

[Davin Swanson]

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

Not if Tim A. keeps driving the way he is }:)

I meant who we'll be chasing that we actually have a chance of catching!

[Davin Swanson]

Since I'm a nerd I calculated the differences. These are 2013 PAX minus 2012 PAX. Positive means that in 2013 the PAX is higher than it was in 2012.

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SS	0.001		SSP	0.006		XP	0.003		AM	0
AS	0.003		ASP	0.003		BP	0.005		BM	0.002
BS	0.002		BSP	-0.001	  CP	0.002		CM	0.004
CS	0.001		CSP	0.004		DP	0.006		DM	0.003
DS	0.005		DSP	0.004		EP	0.005		EM	0
ES	0			 ESP	0.001		FP	0.002		FM	0.004
FS	0.005		FSP	0			 GP	0			 FSAE 0
GS	0.002									
HS	0.005		STF	0.001		SM	0.001		KM	0.003
					 STC	0.004		SMF  0			 JA	0.003
					 STS	0.002		SSM  0.002	   JB	0.008
					 STR	0.004							 JC	-0.004
					 STX	0.005						
					 STU	0.005						

Average was 0.0026 across all classes. If your PAX went up 0.002 or lower, you made out better than average, and if it went up 0.003 or higher you took it in the shorts relative to the average.

[Kurt Rahn]

Since I'm a nerd I calculated the differences. These are 2013 PAX minus 2012 PAX. Positive means that in 2013 the PAX is higher than it was in 2012.

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SS	0.001		SSP	0.006		XP	0.003		AM	0
AS	0.003		ASP	0.003		BP	0.005		BM	0.002
BS	0.002		BSP	-0.001	  CP	0.002		CM	0.004
CS	0.001		CSP	0.004		DP	0.006		DM	0.003
DS	0.005		DSP	0.004		EP	0.005		EM	0
ES	0			 ESP	0.001		FP	0.002		FM	0.004
FS	0.005		FSP	0			 GP	0			 FSAE 0
GS	0.002									
HS	0.005		STF	0.001		SM	0.001		KM	0.003
					 STC	0.004		SMF  0			 JA	0.003
					 STS	0.002		SSM  0.002	   JB	0.008
					 STR	0.004							 JC	-0.004
					 STX	0.005						
					 STU	0.005						

Average was 0.0026 across all classes. If your PAX went up 0.002 or lower, you made out better than average, and if it went up 0.003 or higher you took it in the shorts relative to the average.

DS must've really taken it to the competition when I wasn't looking

[George Schilling]

... and here's an updated version of my local PAX calculator (now refreshed with updated values, correct opponent labels, and RT comparisons now work):

http://www.lcachola.com/2013PAX.html

Leonard, great calculator!

How can I get that on my phone as an app?

[Max Hayter]

Open the link on your phone

[Steve Ekstrand]

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Average was 0.0026 across all classes. If your PAX went up 0.002 or lower, you made out better than average, and if it went up 0.003 or higher you took it in the shorts relative to the average.

Did you remove AM when calculating the avg?

[Steve Ekstrand]

Bobby-

You only need one developed car or a clear indication of what is possible. STF has that. But its still insanely soft. Bumped .001 means it actually went down. Everything is tied to AM which can't change. AM got slower. KJ!!! Get to work.

[KJ Christopher]

AM got slower. KJ!!! Get to work.

All part of my master plan. Did you think I broke down every other race for the fun of it?

[Leonard Cachola]

All part of my master plan. Did you think I broke down every other race for the fun of it?

Well, it did raise a few questions now that you mention it.

[Leonard Cachola]

Open the link on your phone

Thanks, George!

What Max said.

[Robert Puertas]

So a 40 year old car wins CM at nationals, a class with zero margin for increasing it's performance through new technology or rules changes, and it gets a big pax hit, but EM's index functionally goes down. Did I miss something?