What tires work best for STL

leon Styles · Post by **leon Styles** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:30 pm

Loking for advice on what tires to run in the STL group, What is everyone running
thanks
Leon

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:05 pm

Street Touring Ladies???

What car?

The civies are using Toyo R1R, Bridgestone RE-11, or Kumho XS. The Yoko AD08 and the new Hankook are also options. For larger cars, the Dunlop Direzza StarSpec is added to the mix.

Richard Jung · Post by **Richard Jung** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:32 pm

Is this the rally guru Leon Styles?

If are planning to run a STi/Evo, I'd recommend the Dunlop Z1 Star Specs. Also heard the Kumho XS works well. The cars I know that tested the new Yokos the last few weeks, are switching back to Dunlops for the national championship next month.

Rick

leon Styles · Post by **leon Styles** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:59 am

Yup that me:) its for my Girlfriends Subaru 2.5rs, Looks like she is going to get the Yoko AD08 Why did they change back to the Dunlops??
Hope they work:)
Leon

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:03 am

Anybody know what Marco Vazquez is using now on his RS?

KJ Christopher · Post by **KJ Christopher** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:20 am

Steve Ekstrand wrote:Anybody know what Marco Vazquez is using now on his RS?

I think he will be there Saturday.

Max Hayter · Post by **Max Hayter** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:31 am

I would tell your girl to get the Dunlops - half the price and arguably just as good as the Yoks.

Mako Koiwai · Post by **Mako Koiwai** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:09 am

+1 on the wonderful Dunlop Z1's

Leon, are u going 2 get some tarmac practice yourself this time?

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:32 am

Steve Ekstrand wrote:Anybody know what Marco Vazquez is using now on his RS?

Marco is running Dunlops and is happy with them. He also frequents our garage for alignments and balance which have been able to get him closer to us civics short of jumping in Lugods civic and beating his own time on his first run!!

Leon, Team blew has a wealth of knowledge on subaru setup and is always willing to help. (plug: http://www.teamblewracing.com/forum/)

It would be nice to see another ST 2.5rs give the girls a run for their money and I know that you girl is not a slouch so the girls should get ready for a fight if this is the girl who i think it is!!!

Jason

Jeff Wong · Post by **Jeff Wong** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:51 am

leon Styles wrote:Yup that me:) its for my Girlfriends Subaru 2.5rs, Looks like she is going to get the Yoko AD08 Why did they change back to the Dunlops??
Hope they work:)
Leon

Did she run last weekend? I remember seeing a beautiful lighter blue RS.

Max Hayter · Post by **Max Hayter** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:08 am

Jeff Wong wrote:I remember seeing a beautiful lighter blue RS.

That's no way to describe his girlfriend

Mako Koiwai · Post by **Mako Koiwai** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:12 am

What car?

Thomas Smith · Post by **Thomas Smith** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:04 pm

Mako Koiwai wrote:+1 on the wonderful Dunlop Z1's

Leon, are u going 2 get some tarmac practice yourself this time?

Yeah Leon, you should run but I hope you autocross better than you rallycross!

Ken Motonishi · Post by **Ken Motonishi** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:41 pm

Leon,

All the winners (even Gary Thomason) run the Toyo R1R in ST/STL....

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:47 pm

Ken Motonishi wrote:Leon,

All the winners (even Gary Thomason) run the Toyo R1R in ST/STL....

but if you want to run in ambient temps over 90 or even 100 or under 60 or 50 degrees you should look for another tire... (duck :gpower: ) but otherwise Toyo may have what you want..

=)

Jason

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:59 pm

So wait.... Does that mean the tire to run at temps maybe as broad as between 50F and 100F would be the Toyo R1R???

Mako Koiwai · Post by **Mako Koiwai** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:03 pm

Be the 2nd on the block with the new RS-3 Kook in 225/45/15 ... perhaps the next Cheater Tire. I was surprised that they weighed the same as the R1R in that size ... 22 lbs. Toyo's are often light; Kook's heavier

leon Styles · Post by **leon Styles** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:21 pm

I suck at Auto cross, I seem to think its is rally and spend to much time sideways, then the workers yell at me for knocking the cones over:)
My gal drives well, we changed out the rear sway bar last weekend and her times droped 2 seconds on a 37 second course:) next are tires, Looking at either the Dunlops or Yokos, anyone know who has them in stock as we would like them for this weekend
thanks again
Leon

Jonathan Lugod · Post by **Jonathan Lugod** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:30 pm

Steve Ekstrand wrote:So wait.... Does that mean the tire to run at temps maybe as broad as between 50F and 100F would be the Toyo R1R???

no... they're good when it is 65º-75º outside. If its 64º you risk cracking them, and anything north of 76º will net you a one shot run before they get too hot.

;)

Jeff Wong · Post by **Jeff Wong** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:08 pm

leon Styles wrote:I suck at Auto cross, I seem to think its is rally and spend to much time sideways, then the workers yell at me for knocking the cones over:)
My gal drives well, we changed out the rear sway bar last weekend and her times droped 2 seconds on a 37 second course:) next are tires, Looking at either the Dunlops or Yokos, anyone know who has them in stock as we would like them for this weekend
thanks again
Leon

I would suggest checking on Tire Rack's website to see if they have the tires in the Nevada warehouse and if they do, you could call in and see if they will ship California Overnight which would cost the same as UPS Ground but it should only take 1 day to arrive to your house by Friday.

Jeff Wong · Post by **Jeff Wong** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:15 pm

Jason Flores wrote:
Ken Motonishi wrote:Leon,

All the winners (even Gary Thomason) run the Toyo R1R in ST/STL....
but if you want to run in ambient temps over 90 or even 100 or under 60 or 50 degrees you should look for another tire... (duck :gpower: ) but otherwise Toyo may have what you want..

=)

Jason

Jonathan Lugod wrote:
Steve Ekstrand wrote:So wait.... Does that mean the tire to run at temps maybe as broad as between 50F and 100F would be the Toyo R1R???
no... they're good when it is 65º-75º outside. If its 64º you risk cracking them, and anything north of 76º will net you a one shot run before they get too hot. ;)

I was wondering how rumors started :ibrightdea:

Mako Koiwai · Post by **Mako Koiwai** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:07 pm

Some tire places can make a call and get the tires in a hour or two. Where are you guys located?

Sometimes JLB Motorsports in Corona has some of our high performance tires in stock.

505 N Smith Ave
Corona, CA 92880-6968
(951) 734-4411

Do you know which size tires to get?

Suby's usually want a VERY large FRONT sway bar ... not a big rear bar. Suby's aren't "real" race cars and don't necessarily respond to the usual race car set-ups. Since they lean so much, thus taking away what little front camber they have, they respond well to the big front bar to keep the front end flatter. By big we mean around 27 to 32 mm. No use trying to reinvent the Suby set-up!

Eric Sung, VERY fast RS driver, use to do a lot of course tuning by changing his front and rear toe after his course walks. Especially adding more toe out in the rear for tighter course.

The Hankook RS-3 is also a very promising tire to consider

Mako Koiwai · Post by **Mako Koiwai** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:10 pm

Since you "suck" at Auto Crossing, that means you need to start practicing. Just think that most of us get humbled every time we auto cross by our many National caliber drivers. I don't let that stop me from having a good time trying to get better ...

It's really great that you've taken the first step in admitting that you've got a problem!

Richard Jung · Post by **Richard Jung** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:33 pm

leon Styles wrote:Yup that me:) its for my Girlfriends Subaru 2.5rs, Looks like she is going to get the Yoko AD08 Why did they change back to the Dunlops??
Hope they work:)
Leon

They found with the AD08s while the grip was great on the first run, they fell off and were unpredictable the 2nd and 3rd laps.

There is also an $80 rebate on Dunlops until 8/8: http://dunloptires.com/cfmx/web/dunlopu ... /index.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jason Flores · Post by **Jason Flores** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:47 am

leon Styles wrote:I suck at Auto cross, I seem to think its is rally and spend to much time sideways, then the workers yell at me for knocking the cones over:)
My gal drives well, we changed out the rear sway bar last weekend and her times droped 2 seconds on a 37 second course:) next are tires, Looking at either the Dunlops or Yokos, anyone know who has them in stock as we would like them for this weekend
thanks again
Leon

Hey Leon

maybe you could tell us about your current setup and we could offer some encouraging direction for those of us who have built this chassis before....

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