Re: Post Car Classing Help Questions Here!
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:06 pm
Man, it's like they write themselves.Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
Man, it's like they write themselves.Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
Well, there's definitely a Will, but there's no way!Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
You have a good point Steve.Steve Ekstrand wrote:Jamie-
Your mods aren't that big of deal. If you car was stock legal, it probably wouldn't be that competitive anyway. And if it could be you'd probably need the lightest weight expensive wheels and fresh Hoosiers and a lightweight exhaust and uber shocks to be there. Then of course a non-streetable alignment.
You've made you car more enjoyable for the street and pleasure drives and a fun albeit non-competitive autox toy. Don't have any regrets.
Busy day for ya.Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
Not everyone is still at work at 9pm Mike.Mike Simanyi wrote:Busy day for ya.Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
Hey Mike,Mike Simanyi wrote:Busy day for ya.Will Kalman wrote:Ta-Da!Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:Where there's a will, there's a way
But based on the Appendix C reference HIST can be any level of preparation, unless you want the street tire index as well.HISTORIC:
Any category car, prepared in accordance with the SCCA National Solo Rule Book,
with the following exceptions:
(a) All cars of 1968 vintage or older, except that the following cars are eligible
regardless of year of manufacture due to similarity to eligible pre-1969 cars:
Lotus Europa Series 1 & 2, Lotus Elan
Datsun 1600 & 2000
MGB, MG Midget
Morgan +4, 4/4 & Plus 8
[Other cars may be added by written appeal to the Rules Committee]
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(b) Each car will be PAXed according to Appendix C of this Rules Book.
(c) All Stock Class cars running tires with a treadwear rating of 140 or higher will
receive an additional PAX of .975 over their Stock Class PAX.
nah, should fit in SM just fine for a national class.Sebastian Rios wrote:National Class: Probably C-Prepared
There is no Update Backdate for stock classes. The car pretty much needs to be how that car would have left the factory.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Clarify something for me.
In http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _Rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I see:
Super Stock (SS)
BMW
M3 (‘08+)
Z4 M Coupe & Roadster
(‘06+)
Chevrolet
Corvette C5 (all)
Corvette C6 (all non ZR-1)
Dodge
Viper R/T, GTS
Viper SRT-10
Lexus
IS-F
Lotus
Elise N/A (‘05+) (see App. F)
Esprit Turbo
Exige N/A (‘06+)
Mazda
RX-7 Turbo (’93+)
Mercedes
C63 AMG
Porsche
911 (996 chassis) (‘98+)
911 (997 chassis)
911 Turbo, 930 (2WD)
911 GT3 (996)
Boxster S (‘05+)
Cayman S (‘06+)
I also see mention of "same line update/backdate" but only for the street prepared/prepared type of classes.
So in SS with a C6 can I take a the wider Z06 wheels and put them on a base coupe/convertible?
-kg
I am sure that you would be welcomed in Hist. We're a pretty easy going group. You just have to use the index from the national class that the car would compete in and if you are on 140+ wear rated tires, you would get an additional .975 off. This is a CalClub region only class, so if most of the competitiors agree, and I am sure they will, come on and play with us.No go on HIST - that's for Stock class cars only, in every aspect of the SCCA rules.
Looks like no go for HIST because it is a 71 and HIST is 68 and older:
I will let my friend/relative with the 1971 Chevelle know, but so far he has bailed on coming out even though he made it sound like he was very determined to do it before.John Fendel wrote:I am sure that you would be welcomed in Hist. We're a pretty easy going group. You just have to use the index from the national class that the car would compete in and if you are on 140+ wear rated tires, you would get an additional .975 off. This is a CalClub region only class, so if most of the competitiors agree, and I am sure they will, come on and play with us.No go on HIST - that's for Stock class cars only, in every aspect of the SCCA rules.
Looks like no go for HIST because it is a 71 and HIST is 68 and older:
You are actually looking for this part of the rules:Aaron Goldsmith wrote:There is no Update Backdate for stock classes. The car pretty much needs to be how that car would have left the factory.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Clarify something for me.
In http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _Rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I see:
I also see mention of "same line update/backdate" but only for the street prepared/prepared type of classes.
So in SS with a C6 can I take a the wider Z06 wheels and put them on a base coupe/convertible?
-kg
13. (2nd paragraph)
Except for modifications authorized below, Stock Category cars must
be run as specified by the factory with only standard equipment as
defined by these Rules. This requirement refers not just to
individual parts, but to combinations thereof which would have
been ordered together on a specific car. [cut]
Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations
from within a particular model year. Such conversions must
be totally complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements
of this Section. These requirements are not met by simply
pulling a fuse to disable a feature which distinguishes one model
from another.
Depending on his tires he could also run CST or possibly SST. If he reinstalls the stock hood and all associated bits, the intake likely puts him in some class within the ST category.Tito Sar wrote:My friend has a 2007 Honda Civic Si and his only modifications are a carbon fiber hood and an intake. Does this necessarily automatically put him in SM? This month's event will be his first. Thanks!
Carbon fiber body panels = ultimate evil in autoxMike Simanyi wrote:Depending on his tires he could also run CST or possibly SST. If he reinstalls the stock hood and all associated bits, the intake likely puts him in some class within the ST category.Tito Sar wrote:My friend has a 2007 Honda Civic Si and his only modifications are a carbon fiber hood and an intake. Does this necessarily automatically put him in SM? This month's event will be his first. Thanks!
Mike
Yes, STU sounds about right.Johnny Liu wrote:Hi guys & gals! Just looking at getting into solo racing and had a quick question about what class my car would run in.
its a 2005 e46 m3. only modifications are its tires (265/35/18 all around on street tires) and larger rotors/calipers.
I've been told I can run in STU?