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Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:38 pm**

1,796 cc (1.796 L; 109.6 cu in) 4cyl DOHC 16V M42B18

and yeah i should be good with the crack then

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:02 pm**

Yeah, that's a DSP car.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:59 am**

Hi there,

Just getting a start on Solo and need to properly class my car.

I believe its in the ASP class but not sure and would appreciate any help with the classing.

It is a 2009 Porsche Turbo coupe...stock engine..following enhancements are PSS9, Hossier R6 tires.....running 315 rears with an 18inch wheel

Thank you in advance.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:39 am**

jonathan gerber wrote:Hi there,

Just getting a start on Solo and need to properly class my car.

I believe its in the ASP class but not sure and would appreciate any help with the classing.

It is a 2009 Porsche Turbo coupe...stock engine..following enhancements are PSS9, Hossier R6 tires.....running 315 rears with an 18inch wheel

Thank you in advance.

Changin springs means ASP.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:00 pm**

Probably ask for Tom Berry as your Instructor in next month's AX School ... he's pretty good with GT3's and Fiat 430's

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:37 pm**

ok so Heather and i are planning to share the Mazda3 (not a speed3) in SK2 next year. can she run SK2L HS NOV or is that too many indexes for the system to handle?

thanks

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:50 pm**

Chuck Fowler wrote:ok so Heather and i are planning to share the Mazda3 (not a speed3) in SK2 next year. can she run SK2L HS NOV or is that too many indexes for the system to handle?

thanks

Too many indexes, cupcake.

HS NOV is what you want, or SK2 HS.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:06 pm**

Max Hayter wrote:
Chuck Fowler wrote:ok so Heather and i are planning to share the Mazda3 (not a speed3) in SK2 next year. can she run SK2L HS NOV or is that too many indexes for the system to handle?

thanks
Too many indexes, cupcake.

HS NOV is what want, or SK2 HS.

Or NOVL HS, SK2L HS

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:56 pm**

ya, i figured it was too much. cars staying on street tires so i guess SK2L HS will do it.
oh Max, the second day after she gets her permit we're comming down to the OC for some driving lessons

the first day is around Mihai's :mrt:

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:58 pm**

Area around the LA Zoo and Griffith Park and Rose Bowl are good for practice

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:01 pm**

Mako Koiwai wrote:Area around the LA Zoo and Griffith Park and Rose Bowl are good for practice

got a huge, empty Orange line parking lot 5 min from the house

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:11 pm**

... and you've got a couple of hundred cones in your backyard!

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:15 pm**

Do we want to start the pool now as to how many events it takes Heather to beat Chuck? }:)

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:55 pm**

I could use a bit of help. Ran my first Autocross last Sunday and I'm considering doing a lot more next year.

I'm pretty sure my built, turbo Yaris (rear seats removed, just about every part upgraded) would fall into SM or CSM, but also maybe CST if I keep my street tires on it (140 tread rating, read that part). Opinions on proper (or most fun, or most possible to do well in) classing?

I am told that since I've only gone out once this year (ever, actually), I could run all next season in Novice class. Is that so?

Thanks in advance for the guidance.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:17 pm**

Garm Beall wrote:I could use a bit of help. Ran my first Autocross last Sunday and I'm considering doing a lot more next year.

I'm pretty sure my built, turbo Yaris (rear seats removed, just about every part upgraded) would fall into SM or CSM, but also maybe CST if I keep my street tires on it (140 tread rating, read that part). Opinions on proper (or most fun, or most possible to do well in) classing?

I am told that since I've only gone out once this year (ever, actually), I could run all next season in Novice class. Is that so?

Thanks in advance for the guidance.

Well teh national level class for cars like yours is SMF for front wheel drive streetmod cars, but since no one runs it locally I'd run CST or one of the other local classes. It's not much fun running alone in class.

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:04 pm**

Hi ,I'm going to compete tomorrow on Jan 10 and wanted to know what class i should run. My car is classified as fs but talking to some people today at practice I could run maybe sk1 since I have street tires.So I guess my question is which is the better class to race in?

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:56 pm**

Brent Amick wrote:Hi ,I'm going to compete tomorrow on Jan 10 and wanted to know what class i should run. My car is classified as fs but talking to some people today at practice I could run maybe sk1 since I have street tires.So I guess my question is which is the better class to race in?

In the past couple of years there have not been many people running FS consistantly on the local level. I would suggest SK1 as long as you don't mind a bunch of competition. ;)

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:39 pm**

Thanks Christine so racing in sk1 I would race everyone w/ st tires ?So I figure this is where depending on what car u have u get + or - a certain amount of time?Would it be worth maybe stepping up 2 fsp?Hopefully not a dumb question?

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:55 pm**

Brent Amick wrote:Thanks Christine so racing in sk1 I would race everyone w/ st tires ?So I figure this is where depending on what car u have u get + or - a certain amount of time?Would it be worth maybe stepping up 2 fsp?Hopefully not a dumb question?

Because I have street tires I run in SK1 with my SS car (bone stock, including alignment), and feel I had a good day if I beet most of the other SS cars running in SK1.
If I can beat some AS, BS, and FS cars too, that is a bonus.
Typically the class is won by the smaller AS and BS cars, perhaps because of better drivers... better car prep... maybe something with the index... I do not know...

Your time gets indexed, i.e. a multiplication factor is used to equalize your time so it can be compared to the times of the competitors running SK1/SS, SK1/AS, etc, and our Sup Rules describes this:
http://www.solo2.com/supp_regs/SCCA_Cal ... s_2010.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...
STREET TIRE (SK1 & SK2):
(a) Purpose: To encourage drivers who compete in CSCC SOLO events to race on
the same tires they use on the street. (Also referred to as “Street Stock.”)
(b) Eligibility - SK1 & SK2: Any Stock Class legal car, prepared in accordance with
Para. 13 of the SCCA National SOLO II Rulebook, with the exception that all of the
tires mounted on the car must have a TREADWEAR number of 140 or higher
molded by the manufacturer on the sidewall.
(c) Indexing: Each car competing in the Street Stock class will be indexed in
accordance with the PAX (performance) index. For the sole purpose of team
championship point calculation, times shall also receive an additional “Street Tire”
index (SK) which is listed in Appendix C.
(d) Separate classes:
1) SK1 consists of SS, AS, BS and FS.
...

APPENDIX C
CSCC Solo Regional Class PAX Indices
...
SK1 (x stock class index) 0.980
...
2010 National Class PAX Indices (From http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
SS 0.860
AS 0.854
BS 0.847
...
FS 0.837

So on a 60 second course I would have to run 1.6 sec faster than you to have an equal indexed time:
SS: 58.400 *0.860 = 50.220
FS: 60.000 * 0.837 = 50.220
raw time diff = 60-58.4=1.600

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:09 pm**

Brent Amick wrote:Thanks Christine so racing in sk1 I would race everyone w/ st tires ?So I figure this is where depending on what car u have u get + or - a certain amount of time?Would it be worth maybe stepping up 2 fsp?Hopefully not a dumb question?

FSP means F Street Prepared, so why would you want to run against modified cars on racing tires with a stock car on street tires?
Besides for this event, Doug Teulie and his well prepared Karmann VW Scirocco is signed up, and I am pretty sure his raw time would beat anyones raw time in SK1, and in the FSP class there is only raw times used (the FSP index is used in the overall PAX results which is a just a for fun listing).

Posted: **Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:18 am**

Thanks Kristoffer!

Posted: **Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:09 am**

What are the rules for CST, I'm not able to figure it out from Supp Regs?

Posted: **Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:18 am**

Theo Osifeso wrote:What are the rules for CST, I'm not able to figure it out from Supp Regs?

Street Tires (>=140 I believe)
Is "registerable" in CA

Posted: **Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:37 pm**

page 22 of 29:

CALIFORNIA STREET TOURING (CST):
Vehicles eligible for CST must comply with the rules of CSM, with the exception that
all of the tires mounted on the car must have a TREADWEAR number of 140 or
higher molded by the manufacturer on the sidewall.
CALIFORNIA STREET MODIFIED (CSM):
Vehicles eligible for CSM must be capable of being licensed for street use in
California, shall be run on DOT approved tires and must meet all SCCA Solo2
Safety requirements.

Posted: **Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:59 pm**

Thanks Quoc/Christine!

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