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Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:26 am
by George Schilling
MICHAEL Palero wrote:
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Mike-

I wonder if you had Keith Lyon. He was Stacey's first instructor back in 2000.
Maybe.

I'd like to race him.
It was Keith Lyon. That was the last car he brought out about 3 years ago.

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:35 am
by Michael Palero
George Schilling wrote:
MICHAEL Palero wrote:
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Mike-

I wonder if you had Keith Lyon. He was Stacey's first instructor back in 2000.
Maybe.

I'd like to race him.
It was Keith Lyon. That was the last car he brought out about 3 years ago.
Where did he go?

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:38 am
by Max Hayter
MICHAEL Palero wrote: Where did he go?
I believe that one instructor run with you made him retire from the sport!

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:59 am
by Reijo Silvennoinen
I don't recall who was my first instructor......the small club I belonged to in Lethbridge Alberta (LSCC) had only about 45 members and, understandably, it was quite informal.....but we sure had some fun....and it left me warped/addicted for life! :D

However I do recall who my first Evo instructors were about 8 years ago: Ron Bauer, Glenn Hernandez and Nick Leverone.....Ron and Glenn, of course, still run in the Seattle area but I haven't heard of/from Nick in a long time.....Massachetts or area I think? In fact Glenn was in the Calgary area teaching another Evo School just a few weeks ago with Ann Hollis I believe.

Reijo

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:07 am
by Jason Isley BS RX8
Reijo Silvennoinen wrote: but I haven't heard of/from Nick in a long time.....Massachetts or area I think?
Reijo
Nick is a partner in this: http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:12 am
by Aaron Goldsmith
Richard Jung wrote:Mid '99 at Norton AFB, Tom Berry was my instructor. After my first run he told me to "Get closer to the cones".
2 weeks ago at the last event, after riding with me, Tom said... "Get closer to the cones". :D


Actually that's what he told Max, I have some other things to work on.

Rick

Haha, Tom told me at that practice, "You are great through the first three quarters of every turn then you just give up." I think when I figure out what that means i'll get a good chunk of time.

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:20 am
by John Coffey
Grant Byers back in 1991 with me driving a 1991 Forst Escort GT at an event at the old Ford Aeroneutronic facility in Newport Beach. I had to go into work on a Saturday (I worked at Ford) and saw what was going on. I signed up and, without any course walk, made my first run. I was IMMEDIATELY assigned Grant as my instructor via unanimous request from all the course workers. He spent the next few runs yelling LEFT, RIGHT, BRAKE, GAS GAS GAS!

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:38 am
by Greg Peng
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Haha, Tom told me at that practice, "You are great through the first three quarters of every turn then you just give up." I think when I figure out what that means i'll get a good chunk of time.

Not taking advantage of the STI's cheater differentials? The last part of a turn is where they'll do their magic rotating the car and pulling you out of a corner on throttle. At least that's what I felt in Max's STI when stock. It's probably better at doing that now. :|

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:48 am
by Aaron Goldsmith
Greg Peng wrote:
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Haha, Tom told me at that practice, "You are great through the first three quarters of every turn then you just give up." I think when I figure out what that means i'll get a good chunk of time.

Not taking advantage of the STI's cheater differentials? The last part of a turn is where they'll do their magic rotating the car and pulling you out of a corner on throttle. At least that's what I felt in Max's STI when stock. It's probably better at doing that now. :|
Oh, i'm on the gas. I think he means when i get on the gas at the end of corners i give up on trying to stay near the cones.. I think..

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:59 am
by Tom Denham
George Doganis. My first event, was lot 8 cal speedway. I asked Mako to find me an instructor, George drives my car as we approach the the big turn around sweeper, i say out loud "No way". then thru the sweeper and the rest of the course my jaw was on the floor. George then rides with me on my run, He tells Mako and I "Tom is not afraid to get close to the cones" :)
Mako tell mes "Hey your leading Novice class" I come back with" What does that mean??"

I have been hooked ever since Thanks George and Mako. 8-)
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Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:42 am
by Art Rinner
My first instructor was Tom Smith at the No$ practice Jan 2001. But the person I learned the most from was David Avard who was the best Novice Coordinator we've ever had.

Art Rinner

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:09 pm
by Thomas Smith
Art Rinner wrote:My first instructor was Tom Smith at the No$ practice Jan 2001.
Ha, I forgot about that. Eclipse convertible w/automatic? I hated that car! ;)

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:22 pm
by James Wilson
Wait, you can have an instructor???????????? :lol:

Tom Berry rode with me once in 2006, Robert Puertas rode with me once in 2000-2001 I think.....does that count?

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:22 pm
by Steve Coe
Well I'm not as old as Rick Brown.
:lol:
My first inscructor was Paul Bulnell in 1974. He told me "A good autocross drive knows not when to go fast, but when to go slow." To this day I'm still learning!

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:45 pm
by Alex Sanchez
My first instructor would probably be my Cousin Mike Sanchez. And no he's not my BROTHER. And neither is Nick! :P

As for the most recent, it would the Berry's: Tom and Christine. Christine said, as I was sitting in the car in grid waiting to drive: "That's your first mistake. You're hands are in the wrong place." Sure enough they were. I was holding onto the steering wheel like I was gonna do some dumblell curls..

My experience with Tom was just as insightful: "You're turning too late...See now, you're behind on the course...Now Turn! Turn! Turn!" My times improved by over 1.5 seconds after that instrction.

I think the measurement of an instructor isn't how fast they can drive your car. It's how much better of a driver you become and the confidence they can instill in you afterwards.

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:49 pm
by Rick Brown
Steve Coe wrote:Well I'm not as old as Rick Brown.
:lol:
My first inscructor was Paul Bulnell in 1974. He told me "A good autocross drive knows not when to go fast, but when to go slow." To this day I'm still learning!
To go slow?

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:57 pm
by Steve Coe
ahhhh no

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:37 pm
by Q V
First instructor: Kevin Dietz @ Evo School about 2.5 years ago or so.

Kevin: *hopping in the driver's seat* "O, it's an auto, I was looking for the clutch... at least you get to practice left foot braking."

I've learned a lot from pretty much everyone I've met @ autox & otherwise, I'm still slow, but it's still fun. My long term instructor over the past couple years has been Jonathan Hartendorp, who also said "O, it's an auto; that's okay, my 240 was an auto, too."

Then pretty much every time I see him again: "When are you changing out to stick?" Well, I think that's what most people ask when they see me, o well. :mrgreen:

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:17 pm
by Art Rinner
Thomas Smith wrote:
Art Rinner wrote:My first instructor was Tom Smith at the No$ practice Jan 2001.
Ha, I forgot about that. Eclipse convertible w/automatic? I hated that car! ;)
Coupe, but yes an auto, which is why I bought the SE-R three months later.

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:14 pm
by Ron Flaherty
Richard Bowman, after watching me get lost twice in one run, "you need help". Carol's first instructor was Mr. Bill Schenker. Mako drove our car later, lit the front brakes on fire!!!!! We got hooked on AutoX. :P :P :P

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:52 pm
by Aaron Goldsmith
Ron Flaherty wrote:Richard Bowman, after watching me get lost twice in one run, "you need help". Carol's first instructor was Mr. Bill Schenker. Mako drove our car later, lit the front brakes on fire!!!!! We got hooked on AutoX. :P :P :P
Haven't seen Richard in a while...

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:44 am
by Renee Angel
I'd like to defend myself in regards to the screaming and slapping of hands. I probably screamed because when you have a helmet on it is very difficult to hear someone talking to you. In regards to hand slapping, I tell all my students in the beginning that hand control is a pertinent part of autocrossing and that if I see them losing their perspective on hand control - I will slap their hands. I normally get my point across.

My first instructor was Rod Bean at a Lotus West School in Irvine Meadows. I drove that 1965 Mustang monstrosity and all Rod did was drive it with me hanging on for dear life. Not a good way to learn how to autocross.

Renee

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:48 am
by Ashley Armstrong
Renee Angel wrote:I'd like to defend myself in regards to the screaming and slapping of hands
No defense necessary here. I meant it in the nicest of ways. It was immensely helpful!

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:53 am
by Max Hayter
I've been trying desperately to think who my first instructor was - I'm going to go with Norm or Toby!

First Evo school instructor was Tom Kotzian and Kevin Dietz... awesome :thumbup:

Last instructor was Tom Berry... humbling :shock:

Re: Who was your first AutoX instructor?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:28 am
by Jason Uyeda
Ashley Armstrong wrote:Renee.

She didn't scream, but she slapped my hands every time I tried to take them off the wheel. :)

It totally helped!
Rita Wilsey used to slap my hand when I'd leave it on the shifter for too long :)