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Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:06 am
by Steve Ekstrand
Speed maintenance still works in a point and shoot car....

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:52 am
by Mako Koiwai
hmmm ... interesting. It is a decreasing radius downhill "180" corner ... from the video and course layout on the lower left of the video data. So according to gospel, typically one should be Tight Is Right. His line looks more like a traditional road racing line ... yet he was appreciably faster then you apparently. What was it about that corner that made his line faster then?

It was interesting seeing the Evo Extreme data for Henry vs. Pat Salerno. Showed he/Henry was going through a fairly fast, big decreasing radius corner at a higher mph but it took him longer to get thru the corner with his longer line.

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:00 pm
by Jason Flores
Here is some video for contrast from a much slower car!!!

http://blip.tv/file/get/Eyemakeuc2020-1 ... cJF615.mov

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:14 pm
by Aaron Goldsmith
Mako Koiwai wrote:hmmm ... interesting. It is a decreasing radius downhill "180" corner .
With no cones limiting your exit and entering into a slalom you could do with your foot to the floor, ie a straight. To get right on that cone you would have to give up a ton more right at the begining of arguably the fastest section of the course. If it had been entering another slow turn or a very tight slalom, tight would definitely have been the way to go, but a corner setup like that breaks the usual rule for Solo and substitutes the rule for road racing, "every mile an hour you have entering a straight you carry with you all the way down the straight."

PS. Hey Jason F. why do you keep taking your left foot off of the brake to cover the clutch? You're giving up some of the main plus of left foot braking, instant braking. That's .2-.6 seconds you are spending moving your foot over every time. ;)

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:35 pm
by Jason Flores
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
Mako Koiwai wrote:hmmm ... interesting. It is a decreasing radius downhill "180" corner .
With no cones limiting your exit and entering into a slalom you could do with your foot to the floor, ie a straight. To get right on that cone you would have to give up a ton more right at the begining of arguably the fastest section of the course. If it had been entering another slow turn or a very tight slalom, tight would definitely have been the way to go, but a corner setup like that breaks the usual rule for Solo and substitutes the rule for road racing, "every mile an hour you have entering a straight you carry with you all the way down the straight."

PS. Hey Jason F. why do you keep taking your left foot off of the brake to cover the clutch? You're giving up some of the main plus of left foot braking, instant braking. That's .2-.6 seconds you are spending moving your foot over every time. ;)
Over the last 5 months ive been dragging the damn brake all over the place so my "yeohda" has had me move the foot off for the last 3-4 races to exaggerate the motion and pair it with a physical feeling of touching the side of the clutch pedal. He has got me to where I am today, so I ask no questions and the end results is improvement...im just a grasshopper in this world!!!

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:46 pm
by Aaron Goldsmith
Jason Flores wrote: Over the last 5 months ive been dragging the damn brake all over the place so my "yeohda" has had me move the foot off for the last 3-4 races to exaggerate the motion and pair it with a physical feeling of touching the side of the clutch pedal. He has got me to where I am today, so I ask no questions and the end results is improvement...im just a grasshopper in this world!!!
Oh, i've got the fix for you. Gran Tursimo. That'll train you up on the not dragging the brakes right quick. Even just holding the brakes down 5% will destroy your lap times on there and the spring on that pedal isn't very firm, and you can see it on screen. You get real good at locking your foot up off the pedal.

Re: December 14th autocross videos

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:58 pm
by Jonathan Lugod
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
Jason Flores wrote: Over the last 5 months ive been dragging the damn brake all over the place so my "yeohda" has had me move the foot off for the last 3-4 races to exaggerate the motion and pair it with a physical feeling of touching the side of the clutch pedal. He has got me to where I am today, so I ask no questions and the end results is improvement...im just a grasshopper in this world!!!
Oh, i've got the fix for you. Gran Tursimo. That'll train you up on the not dragging the brakes right quick. Even just holding the brakes down 5% will destroy your lap times on there and the spring on that pedal isn't very firm, and you can see it on screen. You get real good at locking your foot up off the pedal.
hahaha thats sounds just about right. I play nearly everyday to kill time when i have free time. The brake pedal is definitely super sensitive yet i still have my foot on it just hovering oh so slightly. :D