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Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:48 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
You know I've bought from JLB since 2004.... You don't have to be a weblumen to get the hookup.

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:48 pm
by Jason Uyeda
Jason Rhoades wrote:Wheel offset is not restricted in ST.

ST wheel material is somewhat restricted, non-metallic wheels are forbidden.

FWIW, non-metallic wheels are only allowed in FSAE. 3.3.3.10

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:09 pm
by Jason Flores
Steve Ekstrand wrote:You know I've bought from JLB since 2004.... You don't have to be a weblumen to get the hookup.

Cool so you know all about em...give em a hollar he know that us ST guys will be calling... :)

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:18 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Jayson Woodruff wrote:
Jason Rhoades wrote:non-metallic wheels are forbidden.
Where's that? Some 'general' area I assume.

By the same token, any diameter is allowed as well.

Jay W
Non-metallic wheels are banned from all Solo and Club Racing classes, except FSAE.

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:22 pm
by Jason Rhoades
The 2009 SCCA Rulebook wrote: 11)No broken or missing spokes or more than one loose spoke
per wheel shall be permitted in wire wheels. No cracks shall
be permitted in disc or cast wheels. Other than standard parts
as defined by these rules, non-metallic wheel construction is
prohibited (FSAE cars are exempt from this requirement
since the FSAE rules allow non-metallic wheels).

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:35 pm
by Jason Uyeda
Jason Rhoades wrote:
The 2009 SCCA Rulebook wrote: 11)No broken or missing spokes or more than one loose spoke
per wheel shall be permitted in wire wheels. No cracks shall
be permitted in disc or cast wheels. Other than standard parts
as defined by these rules, non-metallic wheel construction is
prohibited (FSAE cars are exempt from this requirement
since the FSAE rules allow non-metallic wheels).
oops, it was 3.3.3.B.11... oh well, that was from memory.

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:40 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Jason Uyeda wrote:
Jason Rhoades wrote:
The 2009 SCCA Rulebook wrote: 11)No broken or missing spokes or more than one loose spoke
per wheel shall be permitted in wire wheels. No cracks shall
be permitted in disc or cast wheels. Other than standard parts
as defined by these rules, non-metallic wheel construction is
prohibited (FSAE cars are exempt from this requirement
since the FSAE rules allow non-metallic wheels).
oops, it was 3.3.3.11... oh well, that was from memory.
At least you quoted the section. My lazy ass just looked it up and said non-metallic wheels are only FSAE legal. That goes for both Solo and Club Racing. In fact, I don't know of any sanctioned racing series that allows other than metal wheels. :?:

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:19 pm
by Jason Rhoades
Bob Beamesderfer wrote: At least you quoted the section. My lazy ass just looked it up and said non-metallic wheels are only FSAE legal. That goes for both Solo and Club Racing. In fact, I don't know of any sanctioned racing series that allows other than metal wheels. :?:
Of note, that section does state that non-metallic wheels are allowed when they are "Standard parts", i.e., stock. Don't know of any manufacturer providing such a wheel today, though in 5-10 years' time it's not an inconceivable notion. Today we already have streetable full-ceramic brakes available on a few cars, where it wasn't considered feasible even on a $1M McLaren, not that long ago.

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:54 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
I think there was a composite wheel for a short time on Shelby CSX's (hipo Dodge Shadow around 1988).



Edit add.... 89 CSX-VNT's Fiberide wheels, they were fiberglass reinforced plastic.
http://www.shelbyregistry.com/pages/89csx.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For left foot brakers, they would MELT. :)

Re: ST Wheels and Offset Legality

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:20 pm
by Jonathan Lugod
Steve Ekstrand wrote:I think there was a composite wheel for a short time on Shelby CSX's (hipo Dodge Shadow around 1988).



Edit add.... 89 CSX-VNT's Fiberide wheels, they were fiberglass reinforced plastic.
http://www.shelbyregistry.com/pages/89csx.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For left foot brakers, they would MELT. :)
only if you drag the brake everywhere :lol: