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Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:46 pm
by Mako Koiwai
Where is the shot of the McLaren doing the liquid paint test? I've got to go to NASIOC F1 to find that minutia.
It's fun reading peoples opinion about other countries F1 drivers ... balances out the nationalism for the home grown driver.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:50 pm
by Jeff Shyu
i'll openly admit that i'm a "fair weather fan".. in that i really don't keep up with off-season news (refernce my "what happened to the rear wing" comment on the
new look of F1 thread).
i just enjoy the racing, every bit as much as i enjoy watching you guys duke it out on the asphalt ..
i get my info updates from the speedvision team in the prerace show, and commentaries..
having said all that, where can i find out more info about this US F1 team that they were talking about?!.. now THAT is some exciting news.
also, bring back indy..
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:54 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Nice points, Mako!
Of all the gay staff members I worked with at the LAT, the only one who owned a Miata was a woman, who traded in an Outback for the Mazda. One of the gay guys on staff, who I interviewed for his first job, bought a last-gen five-speed Integra, which he invited me to drive. I did my best to demonstrate the Acura's braking and cornering chops, which he appreciated, ie, he bought that car because it was going to be reliable and sporty.
From my albeit limited observations, I'd peg minivans as the vehicle of choice for lesbians. That's based on only a few data points from years ago, so maybe they've all gone with Vettes now.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:03 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Mako Koiwai wrote:Where is the shot of the McLaren doing the liquid paint test? I've got to go to NASIOC F1 to find that minutia.
It's fun reading peoples opinion about other countries F1 drivers ... balances out the nationalism for the home grown driver.
OK, but the minutia is available elsewhere: Racecar Engineering, Motor Sport, F1 Magazine.
As for the nationalistic bent, it has little to no value whatsoever, so waste your time?
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:15 pm
by Mako Koiwai
As for the nationalistic bent, it has little to no value whatsoever, so waste your time?
I know ... actually just amusing to see the ridiculous trash talk ... that can lead to wars. Wait to you see "our" race fans going on about USF1. :gpower:
It might be amusing if we get nASCAR fans (USF1's company base location) yelling for one of
their drivers to show those furners how to drive!
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm
by John Coffey
Karen said that I should tell you that she passed a Vette coming onto the Roval last friday during her NASA HPDE.
I think its really funny when people talk about "passing" another car at an open track event.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:20 pm
by Mako Koiwai
Explain that to your girl friend
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:24 pm
by Mike Simanyi
Jeff Shyu wrote:
i honestly think that was vettle being a gentleman about it. he knew that he was falling off the pace, and he knew that the overtaking was a matter of time.
i think from that perspective, he might have been apologizing for ending the race for them both
I replayed that a couple times on my DVR. I didn't understand why he was apologizing because it looked like a legitimate race incident, not some irresponsible action caused by foolish blocking.
In my opinion, he was apologizing to his crew for putting the car in the wall after the next turn. Had he slowed down to a more conservative speed, he probably could've avoided the extra damage.
Has anyone interviewed him about the incident and published a report?
Mike
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:06 am
by Kristoffer Gjevre
“We were in second and a strong position, but then, a couple of laps from the end, I had a stupid racing accident with Robert,” explained Vettel. “At the time I turned in I was ahead, but I couldn't keep up speed in the corner and Robert was on a harder tyre, so was much quicker. At the time we collided he was in front, but I had no where to go, I couldn't stop the car, or turn to the right and my tyres were gone.
“Maybe I should have said let him go and bring third back home, but that's life. I tried to defend and, up to the mid-corner, I had reason, but then I had no grip to avoid a collision. I'm sorry to the team and also to Robert, as it didn't just mean the end of my race, but also his.”
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/3/9098.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also of interest:
Vettel recieves race incident support from Schumacher
http://www.f1technical.net/news/11991" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vettel pays for his honesty
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21313.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vettel feels grid penalty is harsh
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954, ... 79,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:35 pm
by Kristoffer Gjevre
Playboy Button after the race... "It got a bit steamy in there."
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954, ... 13,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 348617.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:13 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Hamilton DSQ'd from Australia:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21323.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:07 am
by Kristoffer Gjevre
Granted Truli was a bonehead to go off behind the Safety Car and should not have repassed, but what could he do when the McLaren team and Lewis made him pass.
Finally a FIA decision I can agree with.
Do not lie to gain 3rd place - I would like to know who in the team came up with that briliant idea - McLaren's "squeky clean" image tarnished again...
Justice served!
More details here:
'Further action' against Hamilton possible - FIA
http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/12052/900/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
McLaren statement over Aus disqualification
http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/12049/900/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hamilton, McLaren 'deliberately misled' stewards
http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/12056/900/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:10 am
by Mako Koiwai
... it was nice seeing Trulli on the podium.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:17 am
by Jeff Shyu
well. trulli got to stand on the podium.
got some headache for a while, and then regain his podium.
not too bad overall. it would have been annoying if they stripped him of the podium and put Hamilton on there instead at the end of the race.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:56 am
by Kristoffer Gjevre
Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:09 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.
Whoever replaced Ron Dennis on the pit wall needs a talking to.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:19 am
by Jeff Shyu
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.
Whoever replaced Ron Dennis on the pit wall needs a talking to.
well, that probably had a part in the penalty, but in terms of actual penalties handed down, it was 10 spots for the race incident, and then 50k for the team for instructing him to keep going.
i still think 10 spot is rather harsh, especially when most people consider it a normal race incident.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:32 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
WTF??????????? Man that was a DUMB move by Mclaren-Mercedes. Now the FIA gains more credibility in the original $50 mil fine 2 seasons ago against them.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:20 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Jeff Shyu wrote:Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.
Whoever replaced Ron Dennis on the pit wall needs a talking to.
well, that probably had a part in the penalty, but in terms of actual penalties handed down, it was 10 spots for the race incident, and then 50k for the team for instructing him to keep going.
i still think 10 spot is rather harsh, especially when most people consider it a normal race incident.
I think the 10 spot is in the rules because it's been handed out before for infractions real and imagined.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:59 pm
by Kurt Rahn
BTW, getting off the topic of how Vettel got screwed and how stupid a move Hamilton/McLaren made in lying to the stewards, I just figured out what the new cars look like. It took me a while, because I couldn't picture it from the static pictures I saw before seeing them in action. I just finished watching the TiVO of it last night and it came to me: with the wider/lower front wings and the smaller rear wings, they look like a vacuum cleaner that's been reclined flat to the floor.
Re: F1: Australian GP Results
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:05 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Kurt Rahn wrote:BTW, getting off the topic of how Vettel got screwed and how stupid a move Hamilton/McLaren made in lying to the stewards, I just figured out what the new cars look like. It took me a while, because I couldn't picture it from the static pictures I saw before seeing them in action. I just finished watching the TiVO of it last night and it came to me: with the wider/lower front wings and the smaller rear wings, they look like a vacuum cleaner that's been reclined flat to the floor.
I'll never look at my Dyson the same way. Maybe I can get some McLaren emblems for it.