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Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:50 pm**

I'll bite.

Get a DirecTV account! }:)

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:01 pm**

Mike Simanyi wrote:I'll bite.

Get a DirecTV account! }:)

Actually, my DirecTV didn't get the interviews this past race. Usually not a problem?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:04 pm**

Mako Koiwai wrote:What do I have to do to get my DVR (TimeWarner) to not turn off before the interviews?

I wish Apple would start making DVR's!

I allways add 1/2 hour to the end of the F1 race recordings when I set it up to record... also on TW... HD 2 tuner DVR... have not set it up as a series recording but you should be able to add the additional time there too...

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:06 pm**

Mako Koiwai wrote:What do I have to do to get my DVR (TimeWarner) to not turn off before the interviews?

I wish Apple would start making DVR's!

i'm not 100% on this, but it should be the same options as the directTV stuff.

i assume you have some sort of "season pass" going on with formula 1.

you go into the recording option, which will let you choose first run only, all episodes, etc. there's usually some option on how many episodes to keep.
and then, there should be an option for starting the recording X-minutes before schedule, and to record for x-minutes after schedule.

i have mine set to continue recording 30 minutes after schedule.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:08 pm**

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:
Jeff Shyu wrote:they've got top notch people working for em.
Arrogance and disarray is their downfall. Jean Todt (Frenchman), Ross Brawn (Brit) were outsiders who whipped that team into shape. Now it's all in-house Italians and their machiavellian ways and the "too many chefs in the kitchen" attitude will cause them to languish. It'll take 4-5 races to get their diffusers (who's to say you need one) race-ready. Look at Red Bull. No diffusers, no KERS. Just driving talent (not to take away from the Ferrari drivers).

Not to take anything away from the Red Bull drivers, but lets not forget who designes the Red Bull cars...

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:13 pm**

ex-Team Jaguar ... which use to be ?

The composure and general togetherness of the youngsters ... attributable to ... racing in general ?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:29 pm**

Adrian Newey (born 26 December 1958) is the chief technical officer of the Red Bull Racing Formula One team.
Newey has worked in both Formula One and IndyCar racing as a race engineer, aerodynamicist, designer and technical director and enjoyed success in both categories. Considered one of the best engineers in Formula One, Newey-inspired designs have won numerous titles and almost 80 Grands Prix, dominating much of the 1990s. After almost leaving McLaren in 2001 speculation persisted that he did not wish to remain at the Woking-based team. In November 2005 it was confirmed that he would be transferring to Red Bull Racing in the new year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Newey" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:31 pm**

Its strange that both of "THE" teams got crushed in the new F1. You'd think they would be the best equiped to deal with new designs. But maybe they forgot how to "dance".

Or maybe there's some conspiracy?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:34 pm**

Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:
Jeff Shyu wrote:they've got top notch people working for em.
Arrogance and disarray is their downfall. Jean Todt (Frenchman), Ross Brawn (Brit) were outsiders who whipped that team into shape. Now it's all in-house Italians and their machiavellian ways and the "too many chefs in the kitchen" attitude will cause them to languish. It'll take 4-5 races to get their diffusers (who's to say you need one) race-ready. Look at Red Bull. No diffusers, no KERS. Just driving talent (not to take away from the Ferrari drivers).
Not to take anything away from the Red Bull drivers, but lets not forget who designes the Red Bull cars...

Same guy who designed their weak 2007 and 2008 chassis?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:55 pm**

Mako Koiwai wrote:What do I have to do to get my DVR (TimeWarner) to not turn off before the interviews?

Add an hour extra time to record after stop time to your Season Pass Manager. Oh wait...you're with cable..typical Mac consumer!!!

Also remember....this was a wet race so the race ran a bit longer than normal. So if you recorded with 1/2hr more you were fine. But I've been caught out before when NASCRAP delayed a race start or a qualifying session in F1 so I bumped it up to an hour extra. So this hour carries over for everything (practice, qualifying, race).

Mako Koiwai wrote:I wish Apple would start making DVR's!

I'm sorry but we want DVRs to be "inexpensive" with readily available parts, not overpriced toys. Besides DIRECTV would never go for such non-sense. Hurts the bottom line and bonuses

Also all hard drives run Linux (TiVO) not Mac OS

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:19 pm**

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:...
I'm sorry but we want DVRs to be "inexpensive" with readily available parts, not overpriced toys. Besides DIRECTV would never go for such non-sense. Hurts the bottom line and bonuses Also all hard drives run Linux (TiVO) not Mac OS

Mac OS X is based on Unix...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:23 pm**

Steve Ekstrand wrote:
Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:...

Not to take anything away from the Red Bull drivers, but lets not forget who designes the Red Bull cars...
Same guy who designed their weak 2007 and 2008 chassis?

Same guy who (more or less) designed Vettel's 2008 Monza winning car...

If by weak you mean fragile, yes, he has a tendency to push the limits and desing cars that break at times...

They had some rear axle issue in China I belive and the commentators mentioned this tendency...

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:27 pm**

7 mechanical failures in 17 races.... Ouch.

Guy is brilliant, but maybe needs a dose of reality?

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:43 pm**

Kurt Rahn wrote: Yes! I love the upheaval so far this season! Talk about shaking things up.

I'd feel better about it if it didn't smell so rotten. The commentators were mentioning that BMW asked if the design was okay and were told no. So now, only the teams that chose forgiveness over permission can have them? I was perfectly okay with all of this until I heard that.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:49 pm**

Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:...
I'm sorry but we want DVRs to be "inexpensive" with readily available parts, not overpriced toys. Besides DIRECTV would never go for such non-sense. Hurts the bottom line and bonuses Also all hard drives run Linux (TiVO) not Mac OS
Mac OS X is based on Unix...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I stand corrected. but it took them up til version 10 to realize this

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:58 pm**

KJ Christopher wrote:
Kurt Rahn wrote: Yes! I love the upheaval so far this season! Talk about shaking things up.
I'd feel better about it if it didn't smell so rotten. The commentators were mentioning that BMW asked if the design was okay and were told no. So now, only the teams that chose forgiveness over permission can have them? I was perfectly okay with all of this until I heard that.

i don't like it either, but i think everyone knows that at this point, it's useless to protest it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:01 pm**

It kinda makes you wonder if the secret internal policy is that only small teams can innovate.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:06 pm**

KJ Christopher wrote:
Kurt Rahn wrote: Yes! I love the upheaval so far this season! Talk about shaking things up.
I'd feel better about it if it didn't smell so rotten. The commentators were mentioning that BMW asked if the design was okay and were told no. So now, only the teams that chose forgiveness over permission can have them? I was perfectly okay with all of this until I heard that.

I am pretty sure I read that Toyota also asked and got the OK, so they were pretty confident that they were legal.

I thought Renalut also had asked and got no, I may recall wrong.

Also read something about how Brawn had pointed out the loophole to either the FIA or the passing working group and they ignored it...

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:13 pm**

from my understanding, the teams who did NOT have the enlarged diffusers were part of the design discussion, where they all got the feeling that the diffuser was against the spirit of the rule. seemed like everyone else just pleaded ignorance and put it in.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:23 pm**

Kristoffer Gjevre wrote: I am pretty sure I read that Toyota also asked and got the OK, so they were pretty confident that they were legal.

I thought Renalut also had asked and got no, I may recall wrong.

Also read something about how Brawn had pointed out the loophole to either the FIA or the passing working group and they ignored it...

Yeah, Brawn is on the committee that discussed the rules and he brought it up at the time and suggested changes to the rules that would make it clear what was legal and what wasn't. He lost that vote.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:25 pm**

Aaron Goldsmith wrote: He lost that vote.

Matter of perspective.

Posted: **Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:40 pm**

Interesting reading:

Full diffuser decision of the FIA Court of Appeal
http://www.f1technical.net/news/12191?s ... 673be4d112" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Such as:

Sixth Plea – The Decision of the Stewards is Inconsistent with Previous
Statements Rendered by the FIA

a) Arguments of the parties

82. Renault alleges that the FIA has previously rendered opinions to it, stating that designs similar to those used by the Contested Design Teams in the Contested Design Concept were contrary to the TR.

83. Red Bull submits that it asked the FIA in January 2007 to clarify its position as regards any discontinuity in the reference plane, and the response from the FIA clearly stated that such a discontinuity would be illegal.

84. The FIA argues that in no previous statement did it deal with the Contested Design Concept. The questions put to it in previous cases were different and answered correctly and in a manner consistent with its present position.
...

Posted: **Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:14 am**

Kurt Rahn wrote:
Jeff Shyu wrote:we'll see.

ferrari didn't win all those races in the past from having bad drivers/engineer/team. whether you like em or not, they've got top notch people working for em. so while they're in the dumps right now, if there's 1 team that COULD pull it out, it'd be Ferrari.
Well, basically from when I started watching F1 in the early 80s until Schumi came to Ferrari, they were mid-packers at best. I think the team they brought in with Schumi was special, and now we're seeing it slowly fall apart. However, I'd love to see what Alonso could do with that car. He seems to almost will his seemingly outmatched Renault around to much better finishes than he should.

Yeah, early 1990s it was only by luck and attrition that Jean Alesi ever saw the podium. Before that, you have to go back to the pre-turbo era of G. Villeneuve and Lauda.

Alonso seems to like a twitchy, oversteering car, so the new setup works for him.

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