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Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:33 pm
by Rick Brown
Mark DeShon wrote:Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Hey, PAX folks, quick slacken and sign up. Uyeda, E3 is over and there's another lotus running, time to race. Right now STX is beating us for entries, especially with Isley singed up twice.
'Nother 'New guy' question here... What is PAX?
Mark D.
http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2009.html
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:49 am
by Steve Ekstrand
PAX allows one to lose not only to their own class, but to other classes as well.
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:04 am
by Christine Grice
PAX CLASS
(a) All entrants driving vehicles that compete in any SCCA National Solo II class are
eligible to compete in this Regional Class.
(b) Class results are based on the entrant’s best time multiplied by the National
PAX/RTP Index for their SCCA Solo II class plus any penalty. This Index is
published in North American Pylon and other sources and is listed in Appendix C.
(c) Vehicles competing in this class will display PAX as their class designation. Entry
cards must have the PAX class as well as the normal Solo II class identified.
The link the Rick posted leads you to where you can find the pax factors. In theory if everyone has a perfect run in their car for their class, then everyone should have the same exact time after applying this PAX factor. The Pax class is mostly intended for the national type people to run against each other instead of crushing someone in an underprepared car that would be in their class locally, or for anyone who's class is undersubscribed and who wants some stiff competition.
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:35 am
by Sebastian Rios
Mark DeShon wrote:
'Nother 'New guy' question here... What is PAX?
Mark D.
All the ST* classes benefit from the mythical PAX, which is basically a large mathematical formula that allows ST* drivers to presume their cars to be faster than the "real cars". This PAX, otherwise known as mental masturbation is the holy grail of autocross, the only goal is not to go faster than the other guy, but to have the mathematical formula tell everybody that your time was "better" than the other guys even though your car was slower overall.
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:09 pm
by Mark DeShon
Sebastian Rios wrote: the only goal is not to go faster than the other guy, but to have the mathematical formula tell everybody that your time was "better" than the other guys even though your car was slower overall.
HAHA... That's pretty funny! Personally, index times kick my ass, because my poor, ill-funded 914 happens to land in D-Prepared since I milled my heads .060"!
So indexing makes me mathematically even SLOWER than I already am! Hahaha! Good thing I like to decide for myself whether I drove well or not. See ya guys out there!
Mark D.
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:51 pm
by Chuck Fowler
Sebastian Rios wrote:Mark DeShon wrote:
'Nother 'New guy' question here... What is PAX?
Mark D.
All the ST* classes benefit from the mythical PAX, which is basically a large mathematical formula that allows ST* drivers to presume their cars to be faster than the "real cars". This PAX, otherwise known as mental masturbation is the holy grail of autocross, the only goal is not to go faster than the other guy, but to have the mathematical formula tell everybody that your time was "better" than the other guys even though your car was slower overall.
and then you let some one great drive your car, and they really do beat the other guy's time
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:38 pm
by Matthew Petty
I might be there with some of my DA integra buddies.
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:37 pm
by Matthew Petty
First time I spun out in my car EVER today. I guess my new suspension is working
Re: 6/14/09 No$ Championship Reg Open
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:41 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Nice to see a line of DA's coming into ST! Thanks Matthew! Hope the guys had fun.