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Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:34 pm
by Will Kalman
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Mako Koiwai wrote:Off Topic ... one of the things that McLaren discovered in that spygate affair was that Ferrari uses CO2 instead of Nitrogen in their tires. Why ? Who knows ...
No, they didn't discover it that way at all. Use of CO2 in racing tires far pre-dates Stepneygate, all the way back to the early 1990s. I highly recommend that people who seek accurate and relevant information on F1, instead of the second-hand regurgitation found at F1-live.com, read what's posted at grandprix.com, whose writer/editors have several decades of experience reporting on the sport.
Or better yet, subscribe to F1 Racing magazine.
http://www.f1racing.co.uk/
Or better yet, Racecar Engineering ;)
They were using a mix of CO2 and a refrigerant gas.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:47 pm
by Cam Correa
Forgot the Pressure gauge again.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:29 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Will Kalman wrote:Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Bob Beamesderfer wrote:
No, they didn't discover it that way at all. Use of CO2 in racing tires far pre-dates Stepneygate, all the way back to the early 1990s. I highly recommend that people who seek accurate and relevant information on F1, instead of the second-hand regurgitation found at F1-live.com, read what's posted at grandprix.com, whose writer/editors have several decades of experience reporting on the sport.
Or better yet, subscribe to F1 Racing magazine.
http://www.f1racing.co.uk/
Or better yet, Racecar Engineering ;)
They were using a mix of CO2 and a refrigerant gas.
Hmm. A refrigerant gas? So take a gas that absorbs and holds heat like CO2 and cut it with a refrigerant to get the right amount of fluctuation.
Gio, grandprix.com is a lot more timely than F1. Much as I like the magazine, what we get is two months old at least.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:46 pm
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Gio, grandprix.com is a lot more timely than F1. Much as I like the magazine, what we get is two months old at least.
It's not about the timeliness (mags come every month, and internet is in seconds). I was more referring to the quality of the writers in the magazine. One is pit-lane reporter (and former F1 Team Manager) Peter Windsor. Even nazi-wannabe Moseley contributes every now and then.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:53 pm
by Jason Isley BS RX8
Brought to you by the same people who publish SportsCar.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:25 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Gio, grandprix.com is a lot more timely than F1. Much as I like the magazine, what we get is two months old at least.
It's not about the timeliness (mags come every month, and internet is in seconds). I was more referring to the quality of the writers in the magazine. One is pit-lane reporter (and former F1 Team Manager) Peter Windsor. Even nazi-wannabe Moseley contributes every now and then.
True, the quality of the writing very good. Windsor knows his stuff forwards and backwards. The two writers at grandprix.com are veteran F1 journalists. There's more business of motorsports stuff there than most people would read, but their analysis of Stepneygate was very good.
P.S. buy lots of Haymarket mags so poor Jason can keep his wife and daughter in Jimmy Choos.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:31 am
by John Prosser
Too cheap to buy a Chase Cam. Bill uses butt suction to mount himself to the car.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:05 am
by Aaron Goldsmith
Mako Koiwai wrote:Off Topic ... one of the things that McLaren discovered in that spygate affair was that Ferrari uses CO2 instead of Nitrogen in their tires. Why ? Who knows ...
That's what i was making reference to..
and just so Bob doesn't come in and cut my head off too, it was the use of refrigerant as part of the mix that was the interesting part.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:10 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Mako Koiwai wrote:Off Topic ... one of the things that McLaren discovered in that spygate affair was that Ferrari uses CO2 instead of Nitrogen in their tires. Why ? Who knows ...
That's what i was making reference to..
and just so Bob doesn't come in and cut my head off too, it was the use of refrigerant as part of the mix that was the interesting part.
I'm unarmed! Yes, it was an interesting twist. Not sure of the purpose, but some chemical engineer probably can guess.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:26 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:Brought to you by the same people who publish SportsCar.
I did notice that. Did Haymarket recently buy F1 Racing or was it Haymarket buying SportsCar? Or were they both part of Haymarket all along?
The U.S. distributor website is:
http://www.ewa1.com/mghf1.html
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:13 pm
by Michael Palero
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:25 pm
by Tom Berube
When your lugnuts need to be a little more than finger tight and you can't find a rachet.
Re: Need help with a caption...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:15 pm
by Jason Isley BS RX8
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:
I did notice that. Did Haymarket recently buy F1 Racing or was it Haymarket buying SportsCar? Or were they both part of Haymarket all along?
The U.S. distributor website is:
http://www.ewa1.com/mghf1.html
Both have been Haymarket for like 20+ years.
