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Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:06 pm
by Jason Uyeda
Greg Peng wrote:What's the typical cost of buying a used C5 Z06, prepping it for SS, and running it on R-comp tires?
Should easily be able to get a '03-'04 for 28k. Probably several grand less if you look around. I think 01s are around 22k now...

Wheels are 1-2.5k-ish. Depending on what you get. If you use the stockers (stock wheels are reasonably light) for race tires and get another set for the street, you can get some reasonable looking (although heavy) wheels from TireRack for under 1k...

Tires are about $1200 a set. Only about a $50 diff between A6s (in the arguably better, bigger sizes) and 710s. 710s will last longer.

Shocks, not sure what the Koni yellows cost, probably 1.5k-ish? Many ppl have said the '04 shocks are pretty good, you can get a set of those for $400. I think the cheapo Koni red's Leslie has are about $500..

FSB. The Pfadt bar is the nicest one out there for $550. They also have shocks but I have no idea how good they are.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:37 pm
by Rick Brown
Curt Luther wrote:
Greg Peng wrote:What's the typical cost of buying a used C5 Z06, prepping it for SS, and running it on R-comp tires?
About the same annually as having a kept woman in an apartment across town. Most middle age guys do one or the other...
Ah..............Oh, never mind.


Hmmm, need a little comparison chart.... The car only gives you a thrill about once a month, but hopefully 3 times in a row, but usually only for less than a minute each. The car doesn't talk back, ask for things it doesn't need and stays in the parking lot when you go out to dinner.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:50 pm
by Thomas Barrett
Jason Uyeda wrote:
Greg Peng wrote:What's the typical cost of buying a used C5 Z06, prepping it for SS, and running it on R-comp tires?
Should easily be able to get a '03-'04 for 28k. Probably several grand less if you look around. I think 01s are around 22k now...

Wheels are 1-2.5k-ish. Depending on what you get. If you use the stockers (stock wheels are reasonably light) for race tires and get another set for the street, you can get some reasonable looking (although heavy) wheels from TireRack for under 1k...

Tires are about $1200 a set. Only about a $50 diff between A6s (in the arguably better, bigger sizes) and 710s. 710s will last longer.

Shocks, not sure what the Koni yellows cost, probably 1.5k-ish? Many ppl have said the '04 shocks are pretty good, you can get a set of those for $400. I think the cheapo Koni red's Leslie has are about $500..

FSB. The Pfadt bar is the nicest one out there for $550. They also have shocks but I have no idea how good they are.
I am using the pfadt shocks and I think they are very good. Easily adustable and it makes for wide range of stiffness and rebound control. 16 adjustment positons per shock.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:55 pm
by Max Hayter
I think we are planning on Penske shocks.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:57 pm
by Curt Luther
Rick Brown wrote:
Curt Luther wrote:About the same annually as having a kept woman in an apartment across town. Most middle age guys do one or the other...
Ah..............Oh, never mind.


Hmmm, need a little comparison chart.... The car only gives you a thrill about once a month, but hopefully 3 times in a row, but usually only for less than a minute each. The car doesn't talk back, ask for things it doesn't need and stays in the parking lot when you go out to dinner.
Gee Rick, you seem to know a bit about this and you never had a Corvette...hmmm ;)

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:58 pm
by Aaron Goldsmith
Max Hayter wrote:I think we are planning on Penske shocks.
Man, you are TERRIBLE at pretending to be asking, "for a friend" :lol:

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:14 pm
by Max Hayter
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
Man, you are TERRIBLE at pretending to be asking, "for a friend" :lol:
Well, I realize it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure all this out :lol:

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:16 pm
by Annie Bauer
Hi everyone! (looking to buy car #41, shocking, isn't it?)

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:26 pm
by Marshall Grice
Hey I know someone selling some triple adjustable penske shocks for a C5. Buy the shocks, get the ASP car for free. :lol:

you also wouldn't have to ever worry about finishing 50th at nationals in ASP. ;)

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:44 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Annie Bauer wrote:Hi everyone! (looking to buy car #41, shocking, isn't it?)
I don't think I've owned a third that many cars, including the two I went through during 3 weeks in Scotland back in the '70s. :o

I think the buy the Penskes get the Vette free offer can't be beat. :lol:

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:46 pm
by Annie Bauer
Yes, the Berry vette is SOOOO tempting... :heyes:

... it's that pesky problem of no truck, no trailer, and no place to put either even if I had them! I need a car that can be driven to events without worry, and I'm hesitant to do that with the ASP beast :mrgreen:

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:49 pm
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Annie Bauer wrote:Yes, the Berry vette is SOOOO tempting... :heyes:

... it's that pesky problem of no truck, no trailer, and no place to put either even if I had them! I need a car that can be driven to events without worry, and I'm hesitant to do that with the ASP beast :mrgreen:
Annie....i tempted this thought last year. And I just couldn't budget it in....but if I could I ran into the same issues you have. I live in a condo with 1-car space garage.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:02 pm
by Jason Uyeda
Annie Bauer wrote:Yes, the Berry vette is SOOOO tempting... :heyes:

... it's that pesky problem of no truck, no trailer, and no place to put either even if I had them! I need a car that can be driven to events without worry, and I'm hesitant to do that with the ASP beast :mrgreen:
Thomason doesn't have a truck or trailer... He drove that car to pretty much every SD event, many LA events, Atwater several times and Wendover at least once. I say put the AC back in it and drive it...

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:03 pm
by Marshall Grice
Jason Uyeda wrote:
Annie Bauer wrote:Yes, the Berry vette is SOOOO tempting... :heyes:

... it's that pesky problem of no truck, no trailer, and no place to put either even if I had them! I need a car that can be driven to events without worry, and I'm hesitant to do that with the ASP beast :mrgreen:
Thomason doesn't have a truck or trailer... He drove that car to pretty much every SD event, many LA events, Atwater several times and Wendover at least once. I say put the AC back in it and drive it...
truck and trailer only save tire budget, and really it's no less streetable the Max's STi(with FAR fewer stickers :roll: ). I can't believe anyone in our region would even consider building a SS c5 while this ASP car is available for a comparable price.

...and how are you planning to get a SS car to events (or nationals?) with race tires and no truck/trailer?

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:14 pm
by Jason Isley BS RX8
Marshall Grice wrote: truck and trailer only save tire budget, and really it's no less streetable the Max's STi(with FAR fewer stickers :roll: ). I can't believe anyone in our region would even consider building a SS c5 while this ASP car is available for a comparable price.

...and how are you planning to get a SS car to events (or nationals?) with race tires and no truck/trailer?
Could be some people have concerns about getting an ASP car registered in CA.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:19 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:
Marshall Grice wrote: truck and trailer only save tire budget, and really it's no less streetable the Max's STi(with FAR fewer stickers :roll: ). I can't believe anyone in our region would even consider building a SS c5 while this ASP car is available for a comparable price.

...and how are you planning to get a SS car to events (or nationals?) with race tires and no truck/trailer?
Could be some people have concerns about getting an ASP car registered in CA.
That's what friends in Washington state are for. ;)

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:23 pm
by Marshall Grice
Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:
Could be some people have concerns about getting an ASP car registered in CA.
Tom's is registered in CA.

Valid point though, as the car is raced without cats.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:36 pm
by Jeff Shyu
this is southern california.. where every other smog station is willing to take an extra 50 to bypass visual.

or does the C5 not pass smog without cats?

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:49 pm
by Michael Palero
Jeff Shyu wrote:this is southern california.. where every other smog station is willing to take an extra 50 to bypass visual.

or does the C5 not pass smog without cats?
Speaking of SMOG, how are we to legalize our engine swaps if the SMOG Ref program was cut?
Per the Governor's Executive Order issued on July 31, 2008 concerning the state budget, Referee and Consumer Assistance Program (CAP) Repair Assistance, and Vehicle Retirement services have been suspended until further notice. We apologize for any inconvenience. Consumers may call the Department of Consumer Affairs, Consumer Information Center at (800) 952-5210. Also, please check our web site periodically to confirm when both Referee and CAP services will resume.
http://www.bar.ca.gov/

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:03 am
by James Wilson
You can actually find '01 Z06's for about $17-$18K if you know where to look, quite a few pop up every once in a while. A small dealer friend of mine had 4 of them, '01-'03, each under 60K miles, and they were all less than $21K depending on the year. This was a few months back. PureMotors in Kearny Mesa, Bill is the owner, tell him I sent you :D

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:24 am
by Annie Bauer
Since I tend to keep cars for such a long time :lol: I need one that I can easily resell when the time comes. So, a street prepared Vette is really out, even if I could get comfortable driving it to events (which I can't...).

An '04 garage queen is what I'm looking for... :thumbup:

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:33 am
by Steve Ekstrand
If you want ProSolo championships I think you should look at D-Stock....

Pretty funny to have 300hp 135's on R-Compounds lining up with a handicap start advantage against 108hp Civic's on 195-50-15 street tires in L1.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:38 am
by Christine Grice
Steve Ekstrand wrote:If you want ProSolo championships I think you should look at D-Stock....

Pretty funny to have 300hp 135's on R-Compounds lining up with a handicap start advantage against 108hp Civic's on 195-50-15 street tires in L1.
Nah, If she was to go that route then she could buy one of my dad's other for sale cars: VW R32. ProSolo=AWD!

(yes, he has a lot of cars)

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 am
by Steve Ekstrand
The Eames R32 looked pretty good at teh Packwood Pro. In the Challenge Pam in the R32 had like a 3 car length lead on Julie off the line. Amazingly I think Julie had her until she spun at the finish.

Re: Need advice for SS Z06

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:31 am
by Max Hayter
Steve Ekstrand wrote:The Eames R32 looked pretty good at teh Packwood Pro.
It really did - it beat Dietz in the Cobalt as well.