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Leonard Cachola wrote:

Max Hayter wrote:Open the link on your phone

Thanks, George!

What Max said.

Thanks Guys! Locked and loaded.

Robert Puertas wrote:So a 40 year old car wins CM at nationals, a class with zero margin for increasing it's performance through new technology or rules changes, and it gets a big pax hit, but EM's index functionally goes down. Did I miss something?

Seems a little crazy, doesn't it?

Steve Ekstrand wrote:

Davin Swanson wrote:
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Average was 0.0026 across all classes. If your PAX went up 0.002 or lower, you made out better than average, and if it went up 0.003 or higher you took it in the shorts relative to the average.

Did you remove AM when calculating the avg?

No, I didn't, lemme recalculate.

*robot noises*

Ok, still 0.0026.

Robert Puertas wrote:So a 40 year old car wins CM at nationals, a class with zero margin for increasing it's performance through new technology or rules changes, and it gets a big pax hit, but EM's index functionally goes down. Did I miss something?

you did see they are rewriting the FF rules for next year right?

Marshall Grice wrote:

Robert Puertas wrote:So a 40 year old car wins CM at nationals, a class with zero margin for increasing it's performance through new technology or rules changes, and it gets a big pax hit, but EM's index functionally goes down. Did I miss something?

you did see they are rewriting the FF rules for next year right?

Yes. I don't see how FIA side pods are going to make any CM cars faster, most already have flat bottoms and the car that won nationals can't take advantage of most of the rules changes.
It's possible a Fit-engined car could be the way to go, but until that's proven to be true, it's pretty ludicrous to adjust the Pax based on a big fat maybe.

Is there some update to the rules that allows wider wheels, wings, a bunch more power or a lower minimum weight? If so, I missed those...

Kurt Rahn wrote:

Davin Swanson wrote:Looks like there's been a shift of pretty much every class up. The only class that went down looks to be BSP and a handful stay the same (ES, FSP, SMF, GP, EM, FSAE). Everyone else went up.

For our local RTR fun, I think I know who we'll be chasing next year *looks at Matt*. He goes from a 2012 BS PAX of 0.843 to a 2013 FS PAX of 0.830.

Not if Tim A. keeps driving the way he is }:)

Using Leonards awesome calculator it looks like last event I still would have lost by about 1 sec to Tim Albin. Ag, more money and more practice required.

I like the idea of lumping all the RT cars together. I dont believe any class has a serious advantage over another one. If RTR is too large... move them to their own class for that event. I doubt it will be very large. If 20 RT cars show up for a single event id be supprised.

Morgan Trotter wrote:I like the idea of lumping all the RT cars together. I dont believe any class has a serious advantage over another one. If RTR is too large... move them to their own class for that event. I doubt it will be very large. If 20 RT cars show up for a single event id be supprised.

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