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haha.. never caught that.

unfortunately, that ticket was quite some time ago, and my friend probably just copy and pasted it in as is..

Had no idea this ticket process would/could be drawn out so long. Received 11/19/08, submitted my declaration by due date 2/23/09. The court did not process my declaration until 4/6/09 (even though they quickly cashed the check). The LA Superior Courthouse website listed a 5/22/09 disposition date. I called in late April for an update, was informed the Judge had until that date to make a decision.

After days worth of calling, sitting on hold for an hour or more, I finally got through today. Apparently the Officer had not responded, so an AUTOMATIC 6 weeks extension was provided. The dude already had THREE MONTHS after I had to have my stuff turned in!

So I ask, if it's not received by that date, what happens, the file is forwarded to a Judge. It's tossed if that's the case? No, the Judge must still review your statement, and the information physically written on the ticket, and make a determination from the information available to him. So this should happen within a day or two? No... the Judges all have multiple calenders: Civil, Criminal, Small claims, ect. Traffic is last on their priority..... it's not uncommon for months to pass.

This could take a year from the time I received my simple traffic ticket! What happened to that Speedy trial BS. Hell If I'm found guilty in the end, I want my 18 month "be extra careful driver" period to tick by faster than what appears to be more like a 30 month period (We all make mistakes, I like to have this in the back pocket).

So all of you who also posted out there at the time (I think they were mostly in O.C.), still in this same purgatory?

if you're found guilty from your TBD you can then request an in-person trial. The chances of a cop showing up for an actual trial for a ticket written multiple years in the past is very low.

and the ticket doesn't officially go on your record until after this whole mess is sorted out. I say keep pushing onward.

Marshall Grice wrote:if you're found guilty from your TBD you can then request an in-person trial.

Aka "Trial De Nuovo" (meaning "New Trial" in Latin").

And if you somehow have your ticket dismissed/not guilty, then you just gave the state of California a (fill in the dollar amount) interest free loan! Ain't gov't grand.

Another revenue-generating idea

Trial de novo

Nuovo is like "no egg" in street spanglish.

Steve Ekstrand wrote:Trial de novo

Nuovo is like "no egg" in street spanglish.

Took me a second to pronounce it as you spelled it..........YUP you're right! Or what it really means is....NO BALLS! }:) }:)

Just got a call from one of my employees. He just got a cell phone ticket. Don't cops have anything better to do? What a waste of time.

I got one the day after Thanksgiving last year, and I just heard back about it yesterday (lost, unfortunately). The a-hole judge didn't give me traffic school as I requested if I lost, and since it was in Blythe, I'm not going to do the Trial de Nuovo, at which I could ask for traffic school. Sucks!

Kurt Rahn wrote:I got one the day after Thanksgiving last year, and I just heard back about it yesterday (lost, unfortunately). The a-hole judge didn't give me traffic school as I requested if I lost, and since it was in Blythe, I'm not going to do the Trial de Nuovo, at which I could ask for traffic school. Sucks!

request the new trial and then call a traffic lawyer to go fight your case. you'll win for sure.

George Schilling wrote:Just got a call from one of my employees. He just got a cell phone ticket. Don't cops have anything better to do? What a waste of time.

I'd much rather they give out cell phone tix than speeding tix...I've had so many near misses and negative encounters with people paying more attention to their phone than the road, that I pretty much wish they'd all get thrown in a ditch and covered up alive. I haven't looked up any research, but I can't imagine being on a phone while driving (especially those morons who try to text) is dramatically better than being drunk.

Marshall Grice wrote:

Kurt Rahn wrote:I got one the day after Thanksgiving last year, and I just heard back about it yesterday (lost, unfortunately). The a-hole judge didn't give me traffic school as I requested if I lost, and since it was in Blythe, I'm not going to do the Trial de Nuovo, at which I could ask for traffic school. Sucks!

request the new trial and then call a traffic lawyer to go fight your case. you'll win for sure.

They have traffic lawyers? Seriously? What would that set me back?

I'm aware of the next step (if needed) that would add another 3-4 months, unless the officer gets AUTO extension there too, to the time calculation I listed.

My biggest complaint in the process is this AUTOMATIC time extension provided to the officer who failed to respond in the three month time period already provided. If the Officer can't pull his head out of his orifice in that three month time period, why does he get another 6 weeks?

If I was the officer, I'd AUTOMATICALLY blow it off the first time, just to spite the annoying public, who opted to make me write a response, by choosing this route, because I know I get extra time, and the first deadline is a joke anyway.

Its no wonder our courts are jammed up with paperwork, someone had to push the paper around to create the extension.

Here's a place to cut costs, remove these paper pushing tasks based upon not existent deadlines. If we did, we wouldn't need that employee either (salary, benefits, retirement plan etc.). But, we can't have efficiency because that would be an oxymoron to government work.

Kurt Rahn wrote:They have traffic lawyers? Seriously? What would that set me back?

Just guessing, but probably somewhere north of the cost of the ticket and traffic school, or even the cost of the ticket and the increase in insurance if that's the case.

Kurt Rahn wrote: I haven't looked up any research, but I can't imagine being on a phone while driving (especially those morons who try to text) is dramatically better than being drunk.

Just a little old, but still...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201586,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

referencing the same study, but I like the quote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/18083.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Fortunately, the percentage of drunk drivers at any time is much lower," Drews says. "So it means the risk of talking on a cell phone and driving is probably much higher than driving intoxicated because more people are talking on cell phones while driving than are driving drunk." The main reason there are not more accidents is that "92 percent of drivers are not on a cell phone and are compensating for drivers on cell phones," he adds.

EDIT: and as always this site can be very interesting: http://www.car-accidents.com/cell_phone ... dents.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Damn....forgot to post! A month ago I got the most annoying of tickets!!!!!!

JAYWALKING!!! Bail set @$164!!! So the $5 double-scoop chocolate-chip ice cream cone that I walked across the street from my apt now cost me ~$170!! And even the LAPD cop said "city's been cracking down on us to make these tickets...sorry...but at least it doesn't go on your driver's license".

What an f'ing joke! And I don't know if I can even fight this one.

Kurt Rahn wrote:

George Schilling wrote:Just got a call from one of my employees. He just got a cell phone ticket. Don't cops have anything better to do? What a waste of time.

I'd much rather they give out cell phone tix than speeding tix...I've had so many near misses and negative encounters with people paying more attention to their phone than the road, that I pretty much wish they'd all get thrown in a ditch and covered up alive. I haven't looked up any research, but I can't imagine being on a phone while driving (especially those morons who try to text) is dramatically better than being drunk.

I don't mind nuisance drivers being ticketed, but what about the vast majority who can talk on the cell phone and drive safely at the same time? And what about cops? They are some of the worst offenders of driving while distracted. They have a cabin filled with electronics that they are constantly goofing with. How is that not a distraction? A cell phone......that's nothing by comparison.

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Damn....forgot to post! A month ago I got the most annoying of tickets!!!!!!

JAYWALKING!!! Bail set @$164!!! So the $5 double-scoop chocolate-chip ice cream cone that I walked across the street from my apt now cost me ~$170!! And even the LAPD cop said "city's been cracking down on us to make these tickets...sorry...but at least it doesn't go on your driver's license".

What an f'ing joke! And I don't know if I can even fight this one.

Another stupid law. But you're a democrat. You like stupid laws.

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Damn....forgot to post! A month ago I got the most annoying of tickets!!!!!!

JAYWALKING!!! Bail set @$164!!! So the $5 double-scoop chocolate-chip ice cream cone that I walked across the street from my apt now cost me ~$170!! And even the LAPD cop said "city's been cracking down on us to make these tickets...sorry...but at least it doesn't go on your driver's license".

What an f'ing joke! And I don't know if I can even fight this one.

imagine that just went to fund the rehabilitation of some habitual druggie. that should make you feel better.

Craig Naylor wrote:

Kurt Rahn wrote:They have traffic lawyers? Seriously? What would that set me back?

Just guessing, but probably somewhere north of the cost of the ticket and traffic school, or even the cost of the ticket and the increase in insurance if that's the case.

Just looked one up in Blythe. He says it'll cost me $375 for him to get on the judge's calendar and request traffic school for me. Still wavering. And still cursing the judge for forcing me to make this decision by ignoring my request for traffic school.

I lost my case too. I suspect they are so hard up for cash that it would take exceptional circumstances to get out of paying the ticket at this point. It's not worth my time to go any further with this.

Jeff Shyu wrote:

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Damn....forgot to post! A month ago I got the most annoying of tickets!!!!!!

JAYWALKING!!! Bail set @$164!!! So the $5 double-scoop chocolate-chip ice cream cone that I walked across the street from my apt now cost me ~$170!! And even the LAPD cop said "city's been cracking down on us to make these tickets...sorry...but at least it doesn't go on your driver's license".

What an f'ing joke! And I don't know if I can even fight this one.

imagine that just went to fund the rehabilitation of some habitual druggie. that should make you feel better.

Haven't paid it yet. Got a 2 month extension, then will try to fight it. Delay, delay, delay. If not, then yes...dumb law. Regardless of political affiliation but leave it to a GOPer to turn an OT thread into a PP OT thread!

i'm a registered democrat.. :unimpressed:

still a libertarian. i guess i'm still secretly hoping for a fiscally conservative democrat to come along.

Kurt Rahn wrote:

Craig Naylor wrote:

Kurt Rahn wrote:They have traffic lawyers? Seriously? What would that set me back?

Just guessing, but probably somewhere north of the cost of the ticket and traffic school, or even the cost of the ticket and the increase in insurance if that's the case.

Just looked one up in Blythe. He says it'll cost me $375 for him to get on the judge's calendar and request traffic school for me. Still wavering. And still cursing the judge for forcing me to make this decision by ignoring my request for traffic school.

well when you spend the money on a lawyer don't just make him get you traffic school. you pay him to have the case dismissed.

traffic lawyers know the secret handshake.

Marshall Grice wrote: traffic lawyers know the secret handshake.

Proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
Right to confront witnesses

The constitution extends to traffic court. It just isn't automatically applied unless a lawyer is in the room.

George Schilling wrote:Just got a call from one of my employees. He just got a cell phone ticket. Don't cops have anything better to do? What a waste of time.

Maybe so, but it's a law on the books. There was plenty of warning. Bluetooth headsets and plug in headsets are cheap. I bought mine a year before the law went into effect. I have no sympathy. Riding a bike to work and always being concerned about being seen, people holding a cell phone to their head with their hand are definitely less observant of the road. Maybe they are hands free too, but not as much as far as I can see.