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Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:23 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
But Dutto was Mafiosi, so the suspect list is long.

Briatore owns an exclusive resort in Kenya, Lion in the Sun, which costs about $40k a week to stay at. Flav will probably "retire" to St. Thomas and live off income from double-secret, tax-sheltered Swiss foundation.

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:29 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Suspended disqualification, no fine for Renault

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're a friend of Bernie, you don't get the $100m shaft that McLaren got. :mrt:

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:20 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Suspended disqualification, no fine for Renault

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're a friend of Bernie, you don't get the $100m shaft that McLaren got. :mrt:
I actually agree with the decision and what McLaren did was more egregious. They stole plans for building a car that could "lead" to many many wins. Whereas what Piquet Jr. did...did NOT guarantee a win for Fernando. What is up with all these F1 guys just going "criminal"?

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:32 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Suspended disqualification, no fine for Renault

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're a friend of Bernie, you don't get the $100m shaft that McLaren got. :mrt:
I actually agree with the decision and what McLaren did was more egregious. They stole plans for building a car that could "lead" to many many wins. Whereas what Piquet Jr. did...did NOT guarantee a win for Fernando. What is up with all these F1 guys just going "criminal"?
Not to be picky, but McLaren didn't steal anything. A disgruntled Ferrari employee gave them to a McLaren engineer who didn't have the brains to take the documents and report the whole thing to the FIA. As soon as Ron Dennis learned about it, he did report it to the FIA.

Attempting to rig a race is at least as egregious, especially when it involves creating an accident that could have injured or killed other drivers. Copying parts of a car doesn't equate to winning either. At best, what McLaren learned would provide fodder for a protest of Ferrari's floor design and better guessing about pit stop strategy by knowing more about the weight of the unladen car.

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:36 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Well I do agree there is bias against McLaren. Oil & Water = Bernie & McLaren

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:12 am
by Mako Koiwai
Just for the hell of it ... I wonder how much it cost to fix Jr's car? Of course a minor expense in getting Renault a Victory

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:33 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Mako Koiwai wrote:Just for the hell of it ... I wonder how much it cost to fix Jr's car? Of course a minor expense in getting Renault a Victory
I'd guess less than the money that came with 8 constructor's points.

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:11 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
2010 FORMULA ONE SCHEDULE

March 13: Bahrain

March 28: Australia

April 4: Malaysia

April 18: China

May 9: Spain

May 23: Monaco

May 30: Turkey

June 13: Canada

June 27: Europe (Valencia, Spain)

July 11: Great Britain

July 25: Germany

Aug. 1: Hungary

Aug. 29: Belgium

Sept. 12: Italy

Sept. 26: Singapore

Oct. 3: Japan

Oct. 17: Korea

Oct. 31: Abu Dhabi

Nov. 14: Brazil

Read more:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009092 ... z0RqekCDwD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:29 am
by Kurt Rahn
Interesting. They're putting Canada right in the middle of the Euro schedule?

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:12 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Kurt Rahn wrote:Interesting. They're putting Canada right in the middle of the Euro schedule?
Because the contract hasn't been signed yet officially so if it doesn't work, they'll push back Turkey a week after Monaco.

Re: Did Flavio fix the 2008 Singapore GP?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:02 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Second witness against Briatore:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21840.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My guess is that Witness X is Alonso's race engineer.