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I got a good deal on the camera, it's all self contained with recorder/lense/other all in one package. Did not come with any mounting gear. For about $80 I can get THEIR auto mounting kit that has (probably) more stuff than what I need, a "universal" kit.

I'd like to mount inside behind the driver (harness bar would work, but I don't have one in this car) so I can see steering inputs plus the course. For driver improvement.

Suction on the rear window maybe, but the defroster grid may be a problem (grip).

Anyone done this in a c5 vette? How?

:ibrightdea:

I'm sure CaseCam has a suitable mount. Randy will probably help you even if you didn't buy his system

Just a heads up, if you mount the cam inside it's likely that you will only get to see either the view out the window or what is going on inside due to the vastly different light levels... it's also hard to see what's going on outside from inside.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzZ7KZwm3w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(ignore that the audio is off on this one)
Vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEmZnRhSYS8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both are from the SF leg of the divisional series last year.

Bob Plante wrote:Suction on the rear window maybe, but the defroster grid may be a problem (grip).

Suction cup to the passenger side window?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=40993" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



remove the rubber foot first, drill a hole through the bottom, sink a lug screw into it, and fasten a strap to the camera, and you can suction cup it to the rear windshield. I'm pretty sure the suction cup can overcome the defrost grid.

Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Just a heads up, if you mount the cam inside it's likely that you will only get to see either the view out the window or what is going on inside due to the vastly different light levels... it's also hard to see what's going on outside from inside.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzZ7KZwm3w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(ignore that the audio is off on this one)
Vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEmZnRhSYS8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both are from the SF leg of the divisional series last year.

Where is the lense on the 2nd example?

Christine Berry wrote:

Bob Plante wrote:Suction on the rear window maybe, but the defroster grid may be a problem (grip).

Suction cup to the passenger side window?

Rick Brown wrote:I'm sure CaseCam has a suitable mount. Randy will probably help you even if you didn't buy his system

Yes, he's good people. I'd love his system, but (at my level & for my needs) I'm better off buying a6's.

do you know what the focal length is on the camera? that's going to make a significant difference on where you choose to mount the camera too. if it's anything longer than 50mm, even mounted on the back glass, you're probably going to have a hard time seeing the interior of the car?

Bob Plante wrote:

Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Just a heads up, if you mount the cam inside it's likely that you will only get to see either the view out the window or what is going on inside due to the vastly different light levels... it's also hard to see what's going on outside from inside.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzZ7KZwm3w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(ignore that the audio is off on this one)
Vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEmZnRhSYS8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both are from the SF leg of the divisional series last year.

Where is the lense on the 2nd example?

I guess I would need 2 lenses (synchronized) to get the "training feedback" effect that is desired.

Bob Plante wrote:I guess I would need 2 lenses (synchronized) to get the "training feedback" effect that is desired.

That or move it around between runs.

Bob Plante wrote:I guess I would need 2 lenses (synchronized) to get the "training feedback" effect that is desired.

2 lenses can look like this too...

http://blip.tv/file/get/Eyemakeuc2020-1 ... cJF818.mov


this is 8 inches off the side of the rear bumper and just a higher then a cone off the ground, the other camera is above our left knee....

Cool footage. How did you sync the cameras like that?

Kurt Rahn wrote:Cool footage. How did you sync the cameras like that?

You get a system that takes 2 inputs.

This is the one i have:
http://www.chasecam.com/packages/KIT-RK2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bob Plante wrote:I got a good deal on the camera, it's all self contained with recorder/lense/other all in one package. Did not come with any mounting gear. For about $80 I can get THEIR auto mounting kit that has (probably) more stuff than what I need, a "universal" kit.

I'd like to mount inside behind the driver (harness bar would work, but I don't have one in this car) so I can see steering inputs plus the course. For driver improvement.

Suction on the rear window maybe, but the defroster grid may be a problem (grip).

Anyone done this in a c5 vette? How?

:ibrightdea:

Only GoPro mounts work on a GoPro.

Jeff Shyu wrote:do you know what the focal length is on the camera? that's going to make a significant difference on where you choose to mount the camera too. if it's anything longer than 50mm, even mounted on the back glass, you're probably going to have a hard time seeing the interior of the car?

No clue f2.8 lense I think if that means anything.

Mounting to the inside windshield actually provides a decent perspective. Here's a clip we made with a GoPro Hero cam suction cupped to the upper right corner of the windshield. Keep in mind vid quality has been significantly dumbed down for the net.
http://tinyurl.com/6s78o6
Mounting in the left corner provides more realistic driver's perspective, and allows one man opertion. Audio sucks on these cams for in-car recording. Low gain is too muted, high gain distorts massively. You will probably fail tech with a cam suction cupped to the windshield, though...
-Ted

Looks pretty good, thanks.

so I can see steering inputs plus the course.

You need to do two things: Get a wide angle adapter lens for your camcorder (almost any camera store or discounter have them, they just screw onto the front of the lens), and set your camcorder to manual iris (exposure). You shouldn't have a problem with a suction cup on the inside back window, just mount the camera as high as possible. With a wide angle adapter you'll see quite well out the windshield as well as your steering inputs. Set the exposure for the outside light levels manually (see the camera manual). Your actions at the wheel will be under-exposed but you'll still clearly see what you're doing with your hands. Having just a shot of the course is fun to watch but most often tells you little in the fine details about how you drove it (hands and feet). The best of course is to have a data display incorporated into the video. For this sport, the real best thing is to attach the camera to your helmet. But that's not realistic for a camcorder. The problem with a fixed camera is that it only sees straight ahead while you're often looking out the side window at where the car is going and that info is very important for car inputs. The fixed camera can't see the exit of the corner.

This mount works great. http://www.filmtools.com/gripper-3025-s ... mount.html

But everything is a compromise.

Thanks Tom.