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Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:45 am
by Curt Luther
Good news: I got 34.17 MPG on my last tank of gas. Best ever for this car.

Bad news: I paid $4.37.9 a gallon for the gas to fill the tank.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:02 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
$5 by the end of summer. Price will drop before the election, then go back up until inauguration.

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:02 am
by Kurt Rahn
That's exactly double what I get in the Infiniti. :barf:

That and $4+/gal gas is why my next car will be a Mini.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:39 am
by George Schilling
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:$5 by the end of summer. Price will drop before the election, then go back up until inauguration.
Gas usually goes down at the end of the summer driving season do to lower demand and a change in formula to a cheaper blend. But if cost per barrell doesn't stablize, we still won't see a reduction. World demand is not going to be affected but our election. Obviously, the president doesn't have any influence as the Saudis just blew him off.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:49 am
by Jason Flores
Curt Luther wrote:Good news: I got 34.17 MPG on my last tank of gas. Best ever for this car.

Bad news: I paid $4.37.9 a gallon for the gas to fill the tank.
thats close to the 32MPG that I get driving the STS civic to San Diego!!!....too bad race gas cost $4.89 but maybe that not too bad for 91 pump gas with 30% ethanol vs the 10% ethanol in regular pump gas... :D

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:11 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
George Schilling wrote:
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:$5 by the end of summer. Price will drop before the election, then go back up until inauguration.
Gas usually goes down at the end of the summer driving season do to lower demand and a change in formula to a cheaper blend. But if cost per barrell doesn't stablize, we still won't see a reduction. World demand is not going to be affected but our election. Obviously, the president doesn't have any influence as the Saudis just blew him off.
Right, usually a drop in price toward the end of summer. Also the normal trend around a presidential election is a dip in prices followed by a rise beyond the normal home heating oil adjustment. There's still room in the domestic market for downward adjustment despite world production figures. If the next administration, whichever it is, releases some of the strategic reserves, there could be another adjustment down. None of that will be earth shattering though. Six years ago, the nationwide average for a gallon of regular was $1.35. Of course, that's before China traded in the Mao suits for Brooks Bros. knock-offs. And that fool Tata with is $2,500 car isn't going to help matters either.

Next time the Saudis want to buy fighter jets we should tell them to go pound sand. They've got plenty of that too.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:33 am
by Reijo Silvennoinen
I still like the rush of acceleration....but also notice that I'm short-shifting or even skipping gears in order to save fuel......has become a habit during the last year or so.

Heaven-forbid, think I might even try using cruise to control my impulse to keep up or pass traffic. Mind you I hate travelling with the pack....just don't feel safe there. What's an accident worth vs gas?

Reijo

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:50 am
by Steve Ekstrand
Oh Happy day!

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:58 am
by Curt Luther
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Oh Happy day!
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Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:00 am
by Christine Grice
yeah, what Curt said....

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:29 am
by Max Hayter
Gas is cheap - quit whining!

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:39 am
by Reijo Silvennoinen
Geez....biggest jump in crude oil ever in a single day - over $10+ per bbl to a new record $139.01 (might go up a little yet...)! Wow!

Gas up your vehicles today before the pump price jumps.

Reijo

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:41 am
by Bob Beamesderfer
Max Hayter wrote:Gas is cheap - quit whining!
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Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:45 am
by Curt Luther
Max Hayter wrote:Gas is cheap - quit whining!
Problem is, our gas doesn't come with "free", national health care ;)

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:18 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Funny the idiot politician on tv yesterday screamed that there was no legal way crude could go up $5 in a single day. That was yesterday's record.
Oil up over $11 today. Pretty ridiculous climb.

But this isn't 1981. Pullbacks happen, but expensive oil is here to stay

Oh yeah.... We should see $4.60 CA avg by Monday.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:29 pm
by Thomas Barrett
I will start the fight with this statement.

We should be taking the cheap oil in Iraq since we spent all the resources and money to go over there and take control but we are letting the prize get away from us.

The Brits owned that oil before WWII

We should own it now and dole it out to the Iraq's if they behave themselves and start running their own country.
:o

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:48 pm
by Jason Flores
Gas prices around the world
Think you pay a lot for gas? Perhaps you'd prefer to live in Venezuela.
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) – Gasoline prices in the United States, which have recently hit record highs, are actually much lower than in many countries. Drivers in some European cities, like Amsterdam and Oslo, are paying nearly 3 times more than those in the U.S.

The main factor in price disparities between countries is government policy, according to AirInc, a company that tracks the cost of living in various places around the world. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline, said a spokesperson for AirInc.

In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated March, 2005.

Nation City Price in USD Regular/Gallon
Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:50 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Thomas Barrett wrote:I will start the fight with this statement.

We should be taking the cheap oil in Iraq since we spent all the resources and money to go over there and take control but we are letting the prize get away from us.

The Brits owned that oil before WWII

We should own it now and dole it out to the Iraq's if they behave themselves and start running their own country.
:o
That oil was supposed to pay for the whole bollocks job we've done over there. :evil:

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:56 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
I've love to see a gas price survey from May 2008. That one is from March 2005.

What do they use gas for in Venezuela? Milka gets hers from the CITGO in Speedway, IN.

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:46 pm
by Kristoffer Gjevre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pricing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some highlights for 2008:
Sierra Leone $18.43
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Norway (Oslo) $10.03 (3rd highest - oh how I love my home country, one of the richest countries in the world thanks to, ironically, oil production... :shock: )
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United Kingdom $8.56
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Canada $5.49
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United States $3.99 (from 2008-06-05 it states, but I paid $4.539 for 91 for the Z06 today... it is rated at 16/26 but and I get about 11 mpg... but I have a lot of fun :D )
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Mexico (Mexico City) $2.35 (from 2007-05-05 so old)
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Venezuela (Caracas) $0.19

-kg

Edit: Added some more...

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:03 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Venezuela will always be cheap because Fidel Jr. only has a couple of ways of lifting his country's standard of living up from piss poor to just dirt poor and cheap fuel is one of them. Of course demand per capita is a fraction of a First World country.

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:37 pm
by Rick Brown
48 mpg, 0-60 in the 3.5 second range. Fill up around 20 bucks. Of course when I got this bike it was around 7 bucks...... :cry:

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:37 pm
by Bill Schenker
Rick Brown wrote:48 mpg, 0-60 in the 3.5 second range. Fill up around 20 bucks. Of course when I got this bike it was around 7 bucks...... :cry:
51.7 mpg, 0-60 in the 35 second range (actually, it's not that bad.)

Miata: ~ 4 mpg

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:50 pm
by Will Kalman
I average 40fpp in my '06 Civic EX. Not bad for a car rated at 38fpp highway. Large vehicles, traffic anticipation, and downhills are my friends. I don't "draft" large vehicles, but rather just prefer to be behind them than not and it adds up.

Sheesh, putting my mountain bike on the hitch rack takes away about 3-5mpg!




* fpp = Furlongs per Pint

Re: Good News / Bad News

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:52 pm
by Kurt Rahn
Furlongs per Pint
Guess we'll have to start calling your car "Seabiscuit" and announcing your time at the 3/4 pole, huh?