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Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:04 am
by Ivan Monso
Hi,
I have been looking at this site and I am hoping to join you for the Sep 14 th event for the first time. I attended (spectator) one of these back in Apr or May with my son and it seemed like alot of fun.
Kinda confused with all the mods and classes so looking for some help like the guy with the Mustang vert.
I have an 86 Mustang GT - Ttops, prev sitting for 15 yrs and we got it running again. Actually attended my 1st track event ever a few weeks ago at willow springs and it was fantastic!! Looking to get some more practice and driving time to actually learn how to drive and learn the car and CA Speedway is much closer to us
So....the car had various mods done to it years ago consisting of...
1. ==
5lug front disc conversion (stock 10" size), 5 lug rear 9" axle/drum
16x8 Ronal R9 wheels, 245/45/16 F, 245/5016 R Sumitomo HTR Z
3.55 gears
Pulled the air silencer
K&N filter
65mm throttle body
underdrive pulleys
still speed density, not changed to MAF
JBA shorty headers (stock cat h-pipe)
2 chamber Flowmaster mufflers (will these meet the 95db sound req's??)
exhaust ends at the mufflers
Koni struts/shocks
rear seats / rear interior is currently out of the car
poly bushings f/r sway bars
sub-frame connectors
strut tower brace
upgraded rear lower control arms
racecraft (saleen) lowering springs
I think that's it. sooooo.... where do I fit in?
I think it has enough changes to have my butt handed to me in one of the non-stock classes

but hopefully it will be fun anyway
I'm mostly concerned about the flowmasters...how can I get a reading prior to going to the event?
Oh, and what would you suggest setting the tire pressures to? Is there air available at the track?
2. ==
The other question I had was should I get a points card now or wait until after Oct? I think it said they are only good for calendar year...or ...is that the SCCA membership??
I don't have any delusions of taking a trophy so not worried about losing any points or anything like that now but do I need a points card to participate in this event?
3. ==
Can my son drive the same car? Do we both have to register and purchase weekend memberships? Is there a family membership like NASA has?
Can I register online or do we have to wait until the day of the event? Is there a limit on entries?
any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
thanks!!
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:20 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Welcome Ivan: I'll try to answer some of the questions I can. Others will chime on your classing as i'm not familiar with Mustangs (mostly BMWs)
ivan monso wrote:Oh, and what would you suggest setting the tire pressures to? Is there air available at the track?
No. Either fill-up at the nearest gas station or bring an air-pump....or borrow someone's at the event (plenty of people bring air pumps).
ivan monso wrote:
2. ==
The other question I had was should I get a points card now or wait until after Oct? I think it said they are only good for calendar year...or ...is that the SCCA membership??
Wait until after the
Sept. not
Oct. event. New members get the last 3 months (Oct-Dec) of the current year plus the following year for the price of just one year. $30 for 15 months. Our "regional-only" points cards are good for the calendar year while SCCA membership is yearly from the date you join. We have weekend memberships available. I personally timed it so my SCCA membership ends/renews on Dec. 31st.
ivan monso wrote:I don't have any delusions of taking a trophy so not worried about losing any points or anything like that now but do I need a points card to participate in this event?
As for competing for points, it's too late to mathematically win, as you'd only have 3 events but you'll get the discount and you'll be all set for 2009.
ivan monso wrote:
3. ==
Can my son drive the same car?
Yes he can drive your car. It's "co-driving" but with different numbers. In the case of Sept just register as a visitor and you both will get a pair of numbers in the 600-699 range.
ivan monso wrote:Do we both have to register and purchase weekend memberships?
Yes
ivan monso wrote:Is there a family membership like NASA has?
For points cards? Yes. You pay the $30, family members or roommates at the same address just pay $10.
ivan monso wrote:Can I register online or do we have to wait until the day of the event?
Only for champ events AND only for points card-holders. Visitors or non-points card holders have to register day of event.
ivan monso wrote:Is there a limit on entries?
Only for practices, though for champ events there would have to be an influx of like 300 entries to limit entries on Sundays.
Hope I answered your questions. Please go to the Solo2.com website and read the "Newbie" section documents.
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:29 am
by Marshall Grice
ivan monso wrote:Hi,
Kinda confused with all the mods and classes so looking for some help like the guy with the Mustang vert.
thanks!!
Street Mod (SM) or the local California Street Mod (CSM).
gutted rear interior, rear axle swap, non stock final drive (assuming it's non stock), and lower control arms(possibly, i'm not very sure about live axle suspension allowances in SP) look to be the things that bump you out of street prepared. The sub frame connectors could be a snag depending on weather they have cross bracing or are only longitudinally mounted.
Your mufflers are fine. no need to measure.
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:40 am
by Steve Ekstrand
In Street mod only the rear seats can be removed not the interior pieces.
CSM looks like the best fit. Its a local only class. Its sounds like with a couple of minor pieces put back you'd be in SM.
At first the important thing is just coming out and driving and having fun.
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:09 pm
by Ivan Monso
As far as the interior, I can put back the panels and also the seats if needed. I do plan on putting in a cage for additional safety at some point.
stock gears are either 2.73 or 3.08 (manual trans) or 3.27 (automatic) so yes they were changed
the Subframe conn's are just the short ones that bolt in- not full length and no cross bracing
Agreed, the most important thing is just driving, i just wanted to know where I fall as it currently stands.
thanks guys!!!
oh btw, based on these groups, do they run in the am or pm or is it scattered?
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:30 pm
by Giovanni Jaramillo
ivan monso wrote:oh btw, based on these groups, do they run in the am or pm or is it scattered?
The run groups rotate every championship event from month to month (with the exception of the NOTLD - Night of the Living Dead in August where the run group scheduling is unique). So you may run in the beginning of the year's first few events in the morning, then by spring to summer you'll run in the afternoon.
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:35 pm
by Ashley Armstrong
Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The run groups rotate every championship event from month to month
Hey, I didn't know that

Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:04 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
Ashley Armstrong wrote:Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The run groups rotate every championship event from month to month
Hey, I didn't know that

Curt didn't want to shock you.

Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:07 pm
by Ivan Monso
Ashley Armstrong wrote:Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The run groups rotate every championship event from month to month
Hey, I didn't know that

glad I could contribute to the knowledge pool

Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:26 pm
by Curt Luther
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Ashley Armstrong wrote:Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The run groups rotate every championship event from month to month
Hey, I didn't know that

Curt didn't want to shock you.

She just drives the car...
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:45 pm
by Cam Correa
Hey Ivan look me up when you get there, I'll be in my black '85 vert.

Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:26 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Yeah, whats with the run on mid 80's mustangs? ;)
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:53 pm
by Cam Correa
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Yeah, whats with the run on mid 80's mustangs? ;)
Jealous?

Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:06 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Been there done that with my old 85 LX 5.0 Sport
One of the best cars I ever owned. Loved it much more than our 94 Z28 6sp that replaced it.
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:14 pm
by Mike Simanyi
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Been there done that with my old 85 LX 5.0 Sport
One of the best cars I ever owned. Loved it much more than our 94 Z28 6sp that replaced it.
I think that may actually be a decent STX car with the new 265 / 9" wheel allowance.
How well do those cars respond to ST allowances?
Re: Newbie questions ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:21 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
The LSD in the rearends take constant rebuilding in stock form, but I guess in STX you could go with a more robust aftermarket unit.
The quad shock rear is wonky. But in stock form it stormed the canyons in a much more balanced way than the camaro did. My camaro always felt like the rear end was trying to leave the car. Hard drives in 3rd gens never left me with that uncomfortable feeling.
Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:04 am
by Taylor Kurtz
Hey everyone, I'm Taylor, and i'll be driving my first solo2 event this upcoming sunday (Cali Speedway Nov 9). I drive a 2007 Civic Si with a few suspension goodies/exhaust, and looking to further improve my driving. I'm a regular up in the canyons in Malibu, but I can't push my car up there nearly as hard as I would like to. One question: How early should I plan on getting there to register, and is there any chance there won't be any more entree openings? Thanks in advance, and I look forward to meeting some of you.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:05 am
by Doug Teulie
Taylor Kurtz wrote:Hey everyone, I'm Taylor, and i'll be driving my first solo2 event this upcoming sunday (Cali Speedway Nov 9). I drive a 2007 Civic Si with a few suspension goodies/exhaust, and looking to further improve my driving. I'm a regular up in the canyons in Malibu, but I can't push my car up there nearly as hard as I would like to. One question: How early should I plan on getting there to register, and is there any chance there won't be any more entree openings? Thanks in advance, and I look forward to meeting some of you.
7:30 AM
You can race Sunday with an entry and an SCCA 1 day or 1 year membership. You can get both at 7:30 AM on Sunday.
Bring some blue tape to stick on your 600 series car number that you will get with your entry.
Make sure you walk the track. Have fun and be safe.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:46 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Taylor Kurtz wrote:I'm a regular up in the canyons in Malibu, but I can't push my car up there nearly as hard as I would like to.
You won't do anything up there except wreck your car or go off a cliff. I used to the "canyon runs" as fun but when you can't go 10/10ths then it's no fun at all. Improve your driving in autocross in a closed environment and you'll find the canyon runs boring.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:08 am
by Steve Ekstrand
In the canyons, you can work on line and technique like hand position, steering, heel-toe, left foot braking... And enjoy the views.
But trying to go illegally fast on the street is just dumb and dangerous.
We give you an outlet to drive as hard as you want. Without coming around the corner and finding a cow. Or a stuck car. Or a kid. Or another Taylor Kurtz coming at you at speed in the wrong lane...
Don't think most of us are a bunch of pollyanna's and wimps... Quite a few of us have run the canyons and street raced in our youth and moved on to something far more skilled and intense. And something that doesn't threaten careers, families, and lives.
I have two friends whose lives were literally destroyed by street racing. It can be bad.
Enuff preaching... Come out have fun and learn to be a much better driver than you imagined possible.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:07 am
by KJ Christopher
Taylor Kurtz wrote: and is there any chance there won't be any more entree openings?
Not on Sunday. Bring it on out!
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:59 am
by Taylor Kurtz
Thanks for all of the responses. Hope to meet you all soon!
Taylor
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:14 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Doug Teulie wrote:Taylor Kurtz wrote:Hey everyone, I'm Taylor, and i'll be driving my first solo2 event this upcoming sunday (Cali Speedway Nov 9). I drive a 2007 Civic Si with a few suspension goodies/exhaust, and looking to further improve my driving. I'm a regular up in the canyons in Malibu, but I can't push my car up there nearly as hard as I would like to. One question: How early should I plan on getting there to register, and is there any chance there won't be any more entree openings? Thanks in advance, and I look forward to meeting some of you.
7:30 AM
You can race Sunday with an entry and an SCCA 1 day or 1 year membership. You can get both at 7:30 AM on Sunday.
Bring some blue tape to stick on your 600 series car number that you will get with your entry.
Make sure you walk the track. Have fun and be safe.
You might want to get there earlier if you want to do the Novice Course walk - unless I hear otherwise, I'll be conducting it starting around 7:35-7:40.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:47 pm
by Taylor Kurtz
how long should it take me to get out to Cali Speedway from west LA? Approximately 405/I-10.
Re: Newbie on the forum
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:11 pm
by Jeff Shyu
at that time in the morning? almost exactly an hour.
probably slightly less