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Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:12 am
by Bob Pl
1999 M3 72k mi almost stock asking 12K?

I'm not close to BMW marketplace as I am to Corvette.

Any educated opinion appreciated.

:)

Any weak points on 1999 M3?

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:14 am
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Bob Plante wrote:1999 M3 72k mi almost stock asking 12K?

I'm not close to BMW marketplace as I am to Corvette.

Any educated opinion appreciated.
That's actually not out of line. It's the mileage that keeps it from being too high of a price. I sold my Silver E36 M3 (99) for $10k even with 160k mi on the odometer. And if it's bone-stock that's even better. A modded car loses its value and if it's an M3 even more so. Also what color is it? Convertible? Coupe or Sedan and where is it located?
Bob Plante wrote:Any weak points on 1999 M3?
The 1997 and up to 99 M3s are best compared to 95-96 that have a 3.0liter inline six as opposed to 3.2 for the 97-99. Also 95s came WITHOUT traction control. As for weak points its more of a comparsion between chassis (E30 - E36 - E46 - E92/93) M3s. Plusses/Minuses on all.

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:42 am
by Mike Simanyi
'95 was the only year with the 3.0. '96+ all had the 3.2.

Bob, if you want a great car with a wonderful set of "features" for an autocrosser, talk to Chris Teague! His car has no sunroof and no cruise control, and it's even optioned with the rare fixed (not fold-down) rear seat, adding to structural rigidity. It's a sedan, and weighs significantly less than most of the M3s out there.

Of course with the STU suspension on it, it's probably not the right solution for someone who's just going to drive it on the street...

Mike

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:20 pm
by Bob Pl
Thanks guys, I did talk to Chris, he's not selling last I talked to him.

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:28 pm
by Mike Simanyi
Bob Plante wrote:Thanks guys, I did talk to Chris, he's not selling last I talked to him.
He could probably be persuaded right now...

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:35 pm
by Brian Peters
Mike Simanyi wrote:...and it's even optioned with the rare fixed (not fold-down) rear seat, adding to structural rigidity.
I know for the E46's this added an incredible amount of torsional rigidity, iirc ~+30%. Chris's car sounds to be a truly unique example.

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:52 pm
by Bob Pl
Looked at it.

Needs tires all around, all 8 plus years old. Everything worked. Paint good but normal scratches & a couple door dings, LF qtr replaced, good paint match. Clutch seemed ok at 70k but probably due for replace in a year or 2. Brakes good. Driver bolster shows quite a bit of wear but not torn yet.

I got on it a few times, no C5Z so far as torque goes. I am so spoiled.

I emailed Tom about a car with history, but no reply so far.

Made offer & was declined. Waiting for a call back (maybe).

:thumbup:

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:57 pm
by Chris Teague
Bob Plante wrote:Thanks guys, I did talk to Chris, he's not selling last I talked to him.
I'm ready to sell at anytime now, I just haven't put out the ads yet. Let me know if anyone wants the details. Mike gave the quick summary. It's a 97 4-Door M3 with 69K miles, and I am the original owner. It is setup for STU, but I do have all the stock parts except the shocks which wouldn't have been any good anyway. Mine has decent Yokohama Neova AD07's, no door dings, pretty good paint. No sunroof, no fold down seats, and the 3.2 comes with the 3.23 gears.

Chris

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:30 pm
by Bob Pl
Chris Teague wrote:
Bob Plante wrote:Thanks guys, I did talk to Chris, he's not selling last I talked to him.
I'm ready to sell at anytime now, I just haven't put out the ads yet. Let me know if anyone wants the details. Mike gave the quick summary. It's a 97 4-Door M3 with 69K miles, and I am the original owner. It is setup for STU, but I do have all the stock parts except the shocks which wouldn't have been any good anyway. Mine has decent Yokohama Neova AD07's, no door dings, pretty good paint. No sunroof, no fold down seats, and the 3.2 comes with the 3.23 gears.

Chris
Hi Chris,

Email the details & pictures & price to

b_plante@hotmail.com

and

fmils2@hotmail.com

Looking to pick up some kind of 3 series stick between now & next 6 weeks.

:)

Thanks.

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:57 am
by Mako Koiwai
Very fast car ... didn't it win STU at the SCCA Wendover Tour a few years ago ... and didn't it do pretty well locally in SM ... before Casey's Camaro showed up?

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:30 am
by Richard Jung
Yes Chris's M3 is very well sorted, and fast! I remember it paxed 2nd at an SD event. I've lost to it many times.

Also I got a ride home from SD in it once and was very impressed with the comfortable ride, then Chris told me the TC Kline double adjustable konis were set to with the compression still on firm.

I can throw in a somewhat used set of shaved Dunlops if you buy his car. ;)

Rick

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:12 am
by Steve Ekstrand
Mako Koiwai wrote:Very fast car ... didn't it win STU at the SCCA Wendover Tour a few years ago ... and didn't it do pretty well locally in SM ... before Casey's Camaro showed up?

2005 Atwater Tour
Trophy spots....
1.Chris Teague-M3
2.Rex Tener-M3
3. Steve Ekstrand-SRT-4
Behind us a bunch of Subies... :)

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:38 pm
by Giovanni Jaramillo
Bob if you're looking to buy Chris' car.............you won't be disappointed! When I was a student doing BMWCCA events, I'd always see Chris' car set wicked fast times and always be atop the times at BMWCCA events and in SCCA events. Very well sorted, balanced and a TRUE grocery-getter as it's a 4-dr sedan. :)

Re: Is this a good BMW price?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:41 pm
by Bob Pl
Well it's in the ballpark, for sure, but my son Robert Jr. will be driving it. So I don't know if he'll go 4dr. You know how 21 yr old guys are.


Also looking at 330i's

I don't think it has to be an ultimate best autox car, just 3 series bmw.


:)