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New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:30 pm
by Nicole Armstrong
Hey team,

I did one solo event in Seattle last year. It was one of the BEST EXPERIENCES of my life, learning how to push that car to the max and manuever the course. :gpower: I came out first in ladies novice, in a stock manual Civic Ex.

I then bought an RSX Type S, with air intake and UHP tires, to continue with racing. However, a 6-speed wasn't the best car for long work hour corporate lifestyle with a 3-hour daily stop-n-go commute, once I moved to LA. Since then, I bought an automatic Lexus IS250.

Any way this car can take the track? Since that RSX, I feel like Im in a granny car... :cry: Is there any hope for me?

SUGGESTIONS PLZZZ

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:42 pm
by Tin Bui
Hi Nicole,

Glad you like driving in a solo event and welcome to LA/CSCC!

You can definitely take an IS250 on the track! Its a pretty capable car and you can have lots of fun with it. I drove Mike Palero's Hyundai Accent yesterday, and you would never think that car can be fast. End of the day, it proved me wrong with some very nice times. Maybe I'm strange, but that was most fun car I drove that day out of 4 cars.

IS250 can only be better.

BTW, we have a Novice school in November if you want to attend. I highly suggest it, CSCC has the best instructors.
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Hope to see you at the next event.

-Tin

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:30 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
My wife and I ran a 2000 Dodge Intrepid ES and a 2000 Dodge Dakota Club Cab SLT+ for 4-5 years.
Ran the crap out of them. Local Schools, Evo Schools, practices, local events, track days, even SCCA National events.
They were frustrating at times, not competitve.
But overall we still had fun and got to participate.

I got to think an IS250 would be better than either of our old barges.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:35 pm
by Nicole Armstrong
Thank you both for your input!

I'm relieved to hear its okay to take my car. Heck, if an Intrepid can do it, mine can! :)

Perhaps I'll get to learn how to manipulate this rear wheel drive now... It's interesting how driving became a different experience ever since that first racing event I did. I felt like the car and I had become one (cheesy alert!)

I saw that posting about the school. Sounds great. I even saw there is going to be a ladies school potentially?
Which do you recommend more? Will this address rear wheel drive too?

Also, what is the most fun car you both have taken on the track?

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:01 pm
by Tin Bui
All of the schools are open to any car: rear, front, all wheel drive. I don't think there are any teaching differences between the Open (gents/ladies) and Ladies only school, but check with the school event master.

I work for Toyota and we test drive the IS250 sometimes all over the US. Should be plenty fun for a novice.

The most fun car I have ever driven in an autocross is my M3. Just really easy to drive at the very limit. I have a video of it, I'll send it to you later.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:04 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
I'd do both. They tend to be different. The open school is a little more structured. The Ladies School a little more informal. Both are great opportunities for seat time and improvement.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:19 pm
by Q V
AUTO's are FUN! I actually got a chance to run an automatic is250 for a lap at an autox practice a few months ago & it's not bad at all.

You may want to see if there is an easy (an legal for scca way) to disable the traction control while autoxing, as it still turns on during hard corners/transitions even when you explicitly turn it off via the button. It's still quick even with the traction control on though, you just have to drive a slightly different line.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:08 pm
by Nicole Armstrong
Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:AUTO's are FUN! I actually got a chance to run an automatic is250 for a lap at an autox practice a few months ago & it's not bad at all.

You may want to see if there is an easy (an legal for scca way) to disable the traction control while autoxing, as it still turns on during hard corners/transitions even when you explicitly turn it off via the button. It's still quick even with the traction control on though, you just have to drive a slightly different line.
Oh YES YES YES!

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Okay, quick lemme go google "slightly different lines." :computer: J/k--I think I know what you mean.

Now, any ideas if disabling traction control, even temporarily could also disable my car warranty? :mrgreen:
What they never know will ever hurt it...or WILL it?

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:13 pm
by Tin Bui
Nicole Armstrong wrote: Now, any ideas if disabling traction control, even temporarily could also disable my car warranty? :mrgreen:
What they never know will ever hurt it...or WILL it?
Shhh shhh, its our secret :). Disabling won't void your warranty.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:59 pm
by Kurt Rahn
I can't remember where I read it, but in a couple car magazines, I read the procedure for completely disabling the traction control on all Toyotas. It is possible, and you don't have to touch the wiring. I'd look on the Car and Driver and Road and Track Web sites, or (even easier) call a service tech at a Toyota dealership. Or one of the Toyota employees in our region may be able to help. Tin?

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:03 am
by Q V
Kurt Rahn wrote:I can't remember where I read it, but in a couple car magazines, I read the procedure for completely disabling the traction control on all Toyotas. It is possible, and you don't have to touch the wiring. I'd look on the Car and Driver and Road and Track Web sites, or (even easier) call a service tech at a Toyota dealership. Or one of the Toyota employees in our region may be able to help. Tin?
Fine fine, I'll do the searching.
http://my.is/forums/f127/how-disable-vsc-traction-control-313096/ wrote: It's a matter of of pushing buttons.

1st - Have car off.

2nd - Have E-Brake pressed and brake pressed

3rd - While holding both petals Start the car

4rd - Keep petals pressed...Tap brake twice then hold down

5th - Do the same for E-brake Tap twice and Hold

6th - Now the brake again and now a light will turn on in the dash (Bottom Right)

*The VSC is now off and the car is free* TRUST this trick is so much fun after it is off..the car is set free...

Oh ya once you turn the car off and back on the VSC is back on.

HAVE FUN WITH THIS I KNOW I AM...
There's even a youtube video, lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMN-WEWM5IE

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:20 am
by Jack Tsou
wow.... all that to turn off the traction control... reminds me of...

up up down down left right left right B A start... :lol:

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:33 am
by Tin Bui
The Toyota cars I ususally drive are prototypes so we don't have VSC/TRC/VDIM installed..

I believe all production 2007 ISOOO and newer have a VSC/VDIM off switch. 2009/2010 for sure. Just press and hold it until you see the VSC off light come on the instrument panel.

Nicole, what model year is your IS?

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:32 am
by Q V
Tin Bui wrote:I believe all production 2007 ISOOO and newer have a VSC/VDIM off switch. 2009/2010 for sure. Just press and hold it until you see the VSC off light come on the instrument panel.
The problem w/ that button is that traction control will turn back on. Happened to me about half way through an autox lap - taking a hard sweeper and you hear "beep beep beep beep beep". End of lap, vsc is turned back on. That's why there's the cheat code posted above, hee hee.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:58 pm
by Tin Bui
Quoc-Viet Dang wrote:
Tin Bui wrote:I believe all production 2007 ISOOO and newer have a VSC/VDIM off switch. 2009/2010 for sure. Just press and hold it until you see the VSC off light come on the instrument panel.
The problem w/ that button is that traction control will turn back on. Happened to me about half way through an autox lap - taking a hard sweeper and you hear "beep beep beep beep beep". End of lap, vsc is turned back on. That's why there's the cheat code posted above, hee hee.
You might have not held it down long enough, its a two stage timed button.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:30 pm
by Nicole Armstrong
I'm in a chat room with geniuses :thumbup:

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:56 am
by Christos Adam
For deactivating the traction control I found this info in some Lexus forums but I have hard time to believe it is correct }:) - anyway it's worth trying it...

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The hidden Bluetooth/camera/satnav menu is found by

Headlights off
Engine on
press and hold INFO button
switch parking lights on and off three times
release the INFO button

Tadaa...!

PS - found this on Koshime's diary - but it states it's for VDIM (so IS220d Sport only but I'm confused as the words imply an auto shifter...so must be a petrol - maybe it should read VSC and not VDIM...)

1. (VDIM ON) As stated above, I set the parking brake and started the car. Pumped the brakes twice, set and reset the parking brake twice. I pumped the brakes twice more and the TRAC-OFF light came on the dash.

2. (VDIM OFF) From a stop, I turned right. I started slow but went to full throttle before I was fully into the turn. The RPMs went way up when it shifted to second and I felt I could hear the rear wheels losing traction, but it was not a "squeel".

3. (VDIM OFF) I found an emtpy parking lot. Stopped the car and turned the wheel all the way left. Went right to full throttle. The back end slid out and I did doughnuts. The wheels didnt "squeel", but the RPMs where up and the rear-end had 0 traction.

4. (VDIM ON/TRAC-OFF) Shut down the car to reset. Set TRAC-OFF. Did the same as #3. The back end never lost traction but there was a LOT of "squeel".

5. (VDIM OFF) From a red light, I made a left turn. I immediately went to full throttle and completely lost the rear end and had to counter steer. Some "squeeling".

6. (VDIM ON/TRAC-OFF) I did the same as #5 at the same light. The rear end started to slip. I Heard 4 beeps in quick succession and the rear end got traction and was back on track.

I didnt bother doing VDIM-ON/TRAC-ON as I think #5 and #6 prove it.

The key here are the 4 beeps. Using this method to disable VDIM will let you completely lose the rear-end and smoke the tires. You'll NEVER hear the beeps.

Re: New to LA & Ready to Get Back on the track--my car any good?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:58 am
by Q V
you're a few months late chris ;), tin & i already got this thread covered!