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They have posted sections 13-19:
http://www.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _draft.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

sections 1-12 are posted:
http://www.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _draft.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also according to Howard Duncan's email a month or so ago the Pro-Solo rules should be posted today.

An index or table of contents would be nice.

Anybody know where car classing is located?

Don't have time to look, but used to be appendix A

Hey Mike, Did I hear printed books are not going to be required this year? If so how does this effect annual tech? Book still requierd for annual tech? Tech sticker get a signature line "I have read and understand the rulebook"?

Appendix A was posted:
http://www.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rule ... _draft.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Final rules posted and Sound measurement procedure posted:
http://scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=61" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Public answer (I covered Eric's question on a recent Committee Conference Call):

Per the SCCA's rules, Annual Tech stickers may only be placed in the printed, official rule book. If you'd like an Annual Tech sticker (and qualify for one), be sure to order a rule book or buy one at the upcoming Tour or Pro.

Mike

Mike Simanyi wrote:Public answer (I covered Eric's question on a recent Committee Conference Call):

Per the SCCA's rules, Annual Tech stickers may only be placed in the printed, official rule book. If you'd like an Annual Tech sticker (and qualify for one), be sure to order a rule book or buy one at the upcoming Tour or Pro.

Mike

Yes, a book is required, but the sticker goes on the vehicle:

A. Annual Inspection (optional)
An Annual Safety Inspection for a calendar year may be available for
vehicles presented for inspection by an SCCA member. When a vehicle
has completed the requirements for an Annual Safety Inspection,
an official Annual Tech card will be issued to allow Registration
or other designated event officials to verify Annual Tech prior to the
start of competition. An offi cial Region SCCA Annual Tech sticker
shall be placed on the vehicle in a location that will be visible to
the starter when the vehicle approaches the start line for a competitive
run. If the Annual Tech sticker has been removed, the card
may be used to obtain a replacement. Alternatively, individual event
tech stickers can be issued when the Annual Tech card is presented
rather than the issuance of an Annual Tech sticker. The Annual Tech
should be honored for all SCCA sanctioned Solo events in that Region.

H's & K's,
Rick Ruth

One of the requirements for annual tech is to "possess a current copy of the National Solo Rules." It does not specify whether it must be a paper copy or a digital copy. In San Francisco Region, it was proposed that a driver could present a printout of the title page of the Solo Rules at the annual tech sign-off as proof of possession of a digital copy of the rules.

If a paper copy is still required for annual tech, that would be inconveniently inconsistent with the new Solo license program where you pay a fee to waive the physical rulebook requirement for national level events.

Rick Ruth wrote:
Yes, a book is required, but the sticker goes on the vehicle:

A. Annual Inspection (optional)
An Annual Safety Inspection for a calendar year may be available for
vehicles presented for inspection by an SCCA member. When a vehicle
has completed the requirements for an Annual Safety Inspection,
an official Annual Tech card will be issued to allow Registration
or other designated event officials to verify Annual Tech prior to the
start of competition. An offi cial Region SCCA Annual Tech sticker
shall be placed on the vehicle in a location that will be visible to
the starter when the vehicle approaches the start line for a competitive
run. If the Annual Tech sticker has been removed, the card
may be used to obtain a replacement. Alternatively, individual event
tech stickers can be issued when the Annual Tech card is presented
rather than the issuance of an Annual Tech sticker. The Annual Tech
should be honored for all SCCA sanctioned Solo events in that Region.

H's & K's,
Rick Ruth

The way I read it, you only need an annual tech card, which you can show to get an event tech sticker. While there may be some people that have no problem with a semi permanent sticker on their car, many do not want that. That's why we went to easily removable stickers. Not clear to me if the "official" card and sticker is an SCCA item or something we make locally as we have been doing.

Rick Brown wrote: The way I read it, you only need an annual tech card, which you can show to get an event tech sticker. While there may be some people that have no problem with a semi permanent sticker on their car, many do not want that. That's why we went to easily removable stickers. Not clear to me if the "official" card and sticker is an SCCA item or something we make locally as we have been doing.

Which is pretty much exactly what we do now with the sticker in the front of the rulebook. We'll just call it a card.

Aaron Goldsmith wrote:

Rick Brown wrote: The way I read it, you only need an annual tech card, which you can show to get an event tech sticker. While there may be some people that have no problem with a semi permanent sticker on their car, many do not want that. That's why we went to easily removable stickers. Not clear to me if the "official" card and sticker is an SCCA item or something we make locally as we have been doing.

Which is pretty much exactly what we do now with the sticker in the front of the rulebook. We'll just call it a card.

While that may be true, the "book" option requires the purchase of a hard copy. Our National event fees went up to cover the loss of income the book sales generated, while also being eco friendy. The national office actually made something simpler, and were making it harder by requiring the purchase of something in effect twice, the rules.

We have discussed how to get more bang for the buck for some time now, but not changing our procedure is working backwards, and costing our members more.

I suspect our region's decision was made without consideration of the hardcopy NOT being required.

I'd suggest the issue be readdressed now with knowledge that other major regions have interpreted SCCA rules differently.

I'm a believer in interpreting everything with common sense in mind. I hope we can work it out where a mere card is all that's needed.

Looks to me like all we have to do is make Annual Tech cards (unless there is some official one) that you show to get your tech sticker. I'm sure this will be on the agenda for this month's meeting.

I spoke with Nancy @ the National office regarding another matter, and verified that we need an official, hard copy rule book - when asked why, she said it's a decision of the SEB. I imagine it's a revenue thing.

So, looks like we need to buy a book to get an annual tech for our region; bummer.

It's not a revenue thing; it's a "you can't change the rules after the fact" thing. The rules were finalized before the discussion occurred on this subject, so the requirement stands for 2010. For Annual Tech to be granted, the printed version of the Rule Book is required.

Mike

Speaking of the Rulebook, does anyone have any idea when these will be delivered? I ordered one from SCCA over a month ago.

John Stimson wrote:One of the requirements for annual tech is to "possess a current copy of the National Solo Rules." It does not specify whether it must be a paper copy or a digital copy.

What section are you citing above?

3.3.3.A

3) The SCCA member presenting the vehicle for inspection is required to
possess a current copy of the National Solo Rules.



Where in 3.3.3.A does it say a paper company needed to chop down a tree process it in such a way as to pollute a river, then emit tons of carbon shipping said paper to a printer and then a warehouse and eventually to us.... In the 4th or 5th month of the season????

Steve Ekstrand wrote:In the 4th or 5th month of the season????

No kidding, annual tech should follow the rulebook printing schedule not the calendar.

delete. need to read more.