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Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:26 pm
by Theo O.
At 3:17, what is the difference in degrees between the hour hand and minute hand?
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:34 pm
by George Schilling
Theo Osifeso wrote:At 3:17, what is the difference in degrees between the hour hand and minute hand?
The two answers that popped into my head were........
I don't know, I own digital clock
.......and zero, or close to it :king:
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:35 pm
by Jeff Stuart
3.5
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:12 pm
by Will Kalman
I got 3.5, too. Although I bet there is an interpretation of "difference in degrees" that changes the question from the obvious.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:20 pm
by Theo O.
interesting so far ...
What's the one easy mistake to avoid in solving this problem?

Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:22 pm
by Michael Smith
Theo Osifeso wrote:At 3:17, what is the difference in degrees between the hour hand and minute hand?
- temp: same temperature.
- angle: looking from the side, there is no difference.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:26 pm
by Theo O.
Michael Smith wrote:Theo Osifeso wrote:At 3:17, what is the difference in degrees between the hour hand and minute hand?
- temp: same temperature.
- angle: looking from the side, there is no difference.
Hours and minutes, so we are talking angles and there is a difference. Now answer the question before I come down to your office

Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:33 pm
by Michael Smith
Theo Osifeso wrote:
Hours and minutes, so we are talking angles and there is a difference. Now answer the question before I come down to your office

Equation for the degrees on the hour hand
(0.5 degrees per minute on the hour hand) * (the time on the hour hand * 60 minutes per hour) + (0.5 degrees per minute on the minute hand) * (the time on the minute hand)
Equation for the degrees on the minute hand
(6 degrees per minute on the minute hand) * (the time on the minute hand)
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:35 pm
by Jeff Stuart
3.5 assumes it's a standard 12 hour analog clock with hands that rotate continually and at a constant rate, and that the second hand is at 12. I supposed the easy mistake to make is to calculate the answer with the hour hand pointed at the 3, rather than 17/60ths of the way to 4.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:47 pm
by Christine Grice
Unless there is some major trick question twist to this one, I agree with Jeff and Will.
(17mins/60mins)*360 degrees = 102 degrees (position of min hand)
((17mins/60mins)+3hours)/12 hours)*360 degrees = 98.5 degrees (position of Hour hand)
102 -98.5 = 3.5 degrees
are we still missing something?
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:49 pm
by Rick Brown
Obviously could be 356.5°, too.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:07 pm
by Theo O.
Jeff Stuart wrote:3.5 assumes it's a standard 12 hour analog clock with hands that rotate continually and at a constant rate, and that the second hand is at 12. I supposed the easy mistake to make is to calculate the answer with the hour hand pointed at the 3, rather than 17/60ths of the way to 4.
That's what can be missed

Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:10 pm
by Theo O.
Christine Berry wrote:Unless there is some major trick question twist to this one, I agree with Jeff and Will.
(17mins/60mins)*360 degrees = 102 degrees (position of min hand)
((17mins/60mins)+3hours)/12 hours)*360 degrees = 98.5 degrees (position of Hour hand)
102 -98.5 = 3.5 degrees
are we still missing something?
Nope. You explained it perfectly

Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:40 pm
by Will Kalman
OK, a related question.... how much time passes between each crossing of the hour and minute hand? No tricks - standard 12-hour clock, etc. Explain how you got your answer.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:03 pm
by Jeff Stuart
The two hands will cross 11 times over the course of 12 hours, so
((12 hours)*(60 minutes/hour)/11 = 65.4545... minutes = 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27.27272727... seconds.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:07 pm
by Theo O.
Jeff Stuart wrote:The two hands will cross 11 times over the course of 12 hours, so
(12 hours)/(11 times) = 65.4545... minutes = 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27.27272727... seconds.
Are you some sort of genius?
Nicely done.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:09 pm
by Jeff Stuart
Theo Osifeso wrote:
Are you some sort of genius?
Nicely done.
Heh, I like word problems, and doing these is more entertaining than work right now, unfortunately.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:22 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
I got 3.5 and I went to a Liberal Arts school.

Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:34 pm
by Don Salyers
Steve Ekstrand wrote:I got 3.5 and I went to a Liberal Arts school.

But, I bet you got 3.5 right after Will did the work----
Don
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:41 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Nope, I didn't scroll. Liberal Arts taught me the value of living on a path of learning and discovery. It does help that I have an old fashion school style clock staring at me on the desktop.
But after the Liberal Arts School, then I went to Business School and to Law School. Both taught me that its far simpler to just profit from the work of guys like Will.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:28 pm
by John Stimson
Sunpower uses that one as a filter to automatically reject job applicants.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:48 pm
by Theo O.
John Stimson wrote:Sunpower uses that one as a filter to automatically reject job applicants.
That doesn't seem fair.
But then the interview for my current job was the interview from hell. 9 hours of grilling in one day by 10 people and they all have to like you. I hated all of them by the end of the day

but now we are all good friends.
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:49 pm
by Will Kalman
Jeff Stuart wrote:The two hands will cross 11 times over the course of 12 hours, so
((12 hours)*(60 minutes/hour)/11 = 65.4545... minutes = 1 hour, 5 minutes, 27.27272727... seconds.
You got it. Many people will say "an hour", then say "oh, wait, an hour and 5 minutes", then I tell them that in that five minutes the hour hand will have moved a little more and in that time a little more and so on and on. Some people will take the bait and keep going on that path. That's where we transition from math into comedy }:)
I like to play those jokes on liberal arts grads. Later in life, you find that a little wrench twirling and they give you a co-drive seat and boot themselves out of the trophies. }:) :gpower:
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:43 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Re: Brain teaser
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:45 pm
by Marshall Grice
George Schilling wrote:Theo Osifeso wrote:At 3:17, what is the difference in degrees between the hour hand and minute hand?
The two answers that popped into my head were........
I don't know, I own digital clock
.......and zero, or close to it :king:
i'm with george on this one...i barely know how a dial clock works. My hour and minutes are on the same plane of lcd on my cellphone.
for the record, I failed. assumed 90deg for 3 o'clock