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Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:17 pm
by Leonard Cachola

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:59 pm
by Eric Clements
Can you say "Audi"

Too bad Toyota quit making anything cool. "Unintended acceleration" killed resale value of mid/late 80's Audis way back then.

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:17 pm
by Bob Beamesderfer
I wouldn't say they're completely off the hook, but it changes the perspective.

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:48 am
by Mike Shin
Ms. Marseille said in an interview Tuesday that she was entering a parking space near a library when she heard the engine roar. "I looked down and my foot was still on the brake, so I did not have my foot on the gas pedal," she said.

Police in Sheboygan Falls, Wis., investigated and believe driver error was to blame, Chief Steven Riffel said Tuesday. He said surveillance video showed that the brake lights didn't illuminate until after the crash. But Mr. Riffel said that determination is preliminary and that his agency has turned over the investigation to NHTSA.

Based on the black box data, NHTSA investigators found that the brake was not engaged and the throttle was wide open, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Ms. Marseille sticks by her story. "It makes me very angry when someone tells me, 'She probably hit the gas pedal instead,' because I think it's a sexist comment, an ageist comment," she said.
:roll:

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:24 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Bob Beamesderfer wrote:I wouldn't say they're completely off the hook, but it changes the perspective.
Definitely. A lot of light has been shed on the way Toyota has done business the past few years that has helped the company dig its own hole reputation-wise, but it's unfortunate that it looks like it may also be the victim of mass hysteria.

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:36 pm
by Michael Smith
Here's the latest service bulletin for Toyota's unintended acceleration problem. July 13, 2010
It involves cutting the pedal and floor pad to make more clearance.

http://jalopnik.com/5586073/latest-toyo ... ubble-wrap

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:07 pm
by Will Kalman
This is easy to prove: look at the number of unintended acceleration incidents over time. If the graph follows along with the number of cars on the road that are believed to be affected (i.e. year and model) then it *could* be a car issue. If the number of incidents follows some other curve, say.... a huge bump of reports just as this was breaking news and an unexplained tapering off, then I call foul on car problems.

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:15 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Will Kalman wrote:This is easy to prove: look at the number of unintended acceleration incidents over time. If the graph follows along with the number of cars on the road that are believed to be affected (i.e. year and model) then it *could* be a car issue. If the number of incidents follows some other curve, say.... a huge bump of reports just as this was breaking news and an unexplained tapering off, then I call foul on car problems.
Looks like you got your wish:

http://tinyurl.com/29acods

Re: Based on early DOT tests, Toyota is off the hook

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:29 pm
by Will Kalman
Leonard Cachola wrote:
Will Kalman wrote:This is easy to prove: look at the number of unintended acceleration incidents over time. If the graph follows along with the number of cars on the road that are believed to be affected (i.e. year and model) then it *could* be a car issue. If the number of incidents follows some other curve, say.... a huge bump of reports just as this was breaking news and an unexplained tapering off, then I call foul on car problems.
Looks like you got your wish:

http://tinyurl.com/29acods
Good stuff! Thanks for the link!