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Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:01 pm
by Arthur Grant
Looking for Clarification. My Corvette is classed BSP, I will be running this season in CPM, how should the car be marked BSP or CPM or BSP/CPM?

Thanks

Art

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:06 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Arthur Grant wrote:Looking for Clarification. My Corvette is classed BSP, I will be running this season in CPM, how should the car be marked BSP or CPM or BSP/CPM?

Thanks

Art

BSP is NOT a Prep or Mod class. Therefore you cannot run CPM on a BSP index. You could run CPM as an XP or EM car. Did you mean CSM?

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:05 pm
by Arthur Grant
Steve, thanks. I guess I am in a quandry. I fit best in CSM, but looking at last year, it doesn't look like very many people run there. Sort of my problem with running BSP. By the same token I don't look very competitive in CPM if I am running as an XP or an EM car.

What are the Pax handicaps for XP or EM?

In the end which is better to run alone in BSP, Maybe get some competition in CSM or run out classed in CPM, that's now the hard question.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:19 pm
by Kurt Rahn
Arthur Grant wrote:Steve, thanks. I guess I am in a quandry. I fit best in CSM, but looking at last year, it doesn't look like very many people run there. Sort of my problem with running BSP. By the same token I don't look very competitive in CPM if I am running as an XP or an EM car.

What are the Pax handicaps for XP or EM?

In the end which is better to run alone in BSP, Maybe get some competition in CSM or run out classed in CPM, that's now the hard question.
Running alone is no fun. After that, just pick a class and resign yourself to getting your butt kicked for a while, working on your driving skills and making friends. Pick the best subscribed class you qualify for (more people to bond with), learn and have fun for a year.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:09 pm
by Jayson Woodruff
A well set BSP car on street tires should be competitive enough for CST.

Jay W

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:19 pm
by Arthur Grant
Jayson Woodruff wrote:A well set BSP car on street tires should be competitive enough for CST.

Jay W
Jay, appreciate the thought but your about $600.00 late. I have bought a set of older but never run / 1 run V710's from Richard, a set of used Hoosiers from Peter, and have 8 used V710's standing by. i.e. I am heavily invested (even if used) in R-Comps. I have to be honest I find the car a lot more fun on the R-comps as well, otherwise I would likely go out and play in CST.

I guess the real question is what is the EM handicap vs. the XP if I am going to run CPM, which at least has people in the field.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:04 am
by Rick Brown
Arthur Grant wrote:
Jayson Woodruff wrote:A well set BSP car on street tires should be competitive enough for CST.

Jay W
Jay, appreciate the thought but your about $600.00 late. I have bought a set of older but never run / 1 run V710's from Richard, a set of used Hoosiers from Peter, and have 8 used V710's standing by. i.e. I am heavily invested (even if used) in R-Comps. I have to be honest I find the car a lot more fun on the R-comps as well, otherwise I would likely go out and play in CST.

I guess the real question is what is the EM handicap vs. the XP if I am going to run CPM, which at least has people in the field.
BSP - .859, XP - .887, EM - .910
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Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:58 am
by Theo O.
Regarding running alone in BSP or any class. It usually takes just one person to start and others that are sitting on the fence for same reason usually come in.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:03 am
by Don Salyers
Rick Brown wrote: BSP - .859, XP - .887, EM - .910
http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2011.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's a Rick Ruth PAX for the supplemental BP class----.870. That would sure be OK by me and I would think that the other CPM drivers would agree. So just leave out the S and welcome to the darker side....

Just as long as you make us feel good and push your car off course at least once every other month.... :lol: :oops: :oops:

Don

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:35 am
by Morgan Trotter
Don Salyers wrote:
Rick Brown wrote: Just as long as you make us feel good and push your car off course at least once every other month.... :lol: :oops: :oops:

Don
:lol:

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:01 pm
by Arthur Grant
T. Osifeso wrote:Regarding running alone in BSP or any class. It usually takes just one person to start and others that are sitting on the fence for same reason usually come in.
That might be an answer. The car is a BSP and barely that.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:06 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
But if you run CPM there is inevitably going to be the day you win.... Due to attrition.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:13 pm
by Arthur Grant
Steve Ekstrand wrote:But if you run CPM there is inevitably going to be the day you win.... Due to attrition.
That sounds exciting?

Still the question remains. Let's say I decide to run CPM as an XP? How do I mark the class on the car?

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:47 am
by Don Salyers
With an XP....look at my picture. I don't think anyone uses the CPM stuff....

Don

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:20 pm
by Rick Brown
Don Salyers wrote:With an XP....look at my picture. I don't think anyone uses the CPM stuff....

Don
While T&S prefers to have full class markings, since all Preps and Mods go in CPM, the CPM part isn't really necessary.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:58 pm
by Arthur Grant
Think I will run CSM and see if. I can get someone to join me during the season

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:56 pm
by Jesus Saucedo
I was gonna leave CSM and go to CST, but still don't have a budget for street tires. SOOOO, I'll be running CSM for a bit more. I might have my girl run in CSM as well (in the Yaris (no, not the turbo yaris!)). I'll continue with the CRX.

No worries, Arthur, you won't be alone for a while ;) Me and you, mano a mano. :thumbup: ;)

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:05 pm
by Arthur Grant
Jesus Saucedo wrote:I was gonna leave CSM and go to CST, but still don't have a budget for street tires. SOOOO, I'll be running CSM for a bit more. I might have my girl run in CSM as well (in the Yaris (no, not the turbo yaris!)). I'll continue with the CRX.

No worries, Arthur, you won't be alone for a while ;) Me and you, mano a mano. :thumbup: ;)

Actually I am registered in CPM, thought my BSP index would apply there but it doesn't. Was considering CSM because it sounded closer to what I wanted and the competition was grouped around times I could be competitive with as opposed to being blown out. But with nobody entered and the likliness it will be an under populated group throughout the year I wasn't sure if I shoud go over. I may not bother to change registrations. However if your going to run and your significant other is going to run, that with 3 maybe one of us could earn a trophy? However it's hard on the ego watching my Corvette get beaten by a Yaris.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:12 pm
by Rick Brown
Arthur Grant wrote: However it's hard on the ego watching my Corvette get beaten by a Yaris.
No big deal, ya'll get beaten by a 40hp, single cylinder vehicle at most events anyway...........


Though KJ may be on the way to being TTOD this year.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:20 am
by Arthur Grant
More correctly my ego might have a problem if my street legal Corvette got beaten by a street legal Yaris. (non-street legal vehicles need not apply) :lol:

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:28 pm
by Jesus Saucedo
yeah, I told my girl not to beat you! LOL, I did talk to her about that possibility, but it's HIGHLY unlikely.

Either way, she's not going this Sunday :( So no Yaris action. :cry: Trophy? What does...one...look like? hehe

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:48 am
by Arthur Grant
Jesus Saucedo wrote:Trophy? What does...one...look like? hehe
Actually I am not sure, won two of them last year but they are on back order. Still I look forward to finding it is the box each event, like when were kids waiting for something special in the mail. When I get mine I will let you know.

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:41 am
by Jesus Saucedo
That was pretty funny, but, I still act like a kid when waiting for something special :) Especially with speed parts!

Re: Car Markings

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:05 am
by Bill Schenker
Arthur Grant wrote: Still I look forward to finding it is the box each event, like when were kids waiting for something special in the mail. When I get mine I will let you know.
Hope they don't wind up being like those sea monkeys...