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2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:46 am
by Eric Clements
Pretty much the normal flip flop with new classes added...
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Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:15 pm
by KJ Christopher
Awesome. I'm there every day. At least I don't have to juggle my own car as well as the Junior Kart in back-to-back heats. That is worth a couple extra nights of hotel expense.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:47 pm
by Reijo Silvennoinen
Not quite entirely a flip flop.... I ran on Thurs/Fri last year in AS .... and this year Thurs./Fri. in BS since they changed the classes around. There might be others.
R
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:56 pm
by Kurt Rahn
So they are officially running RT* classes at nationals. Sweet. I assume, then, that they'll run RT at the ProSolo finale as well?
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:39 pm
by Bill Schenker
Eric/Mari,
I'm officially available to work Tues./Weds.!

Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:00 pm
by KJ Christopher
Bill Schenker wrote:Eric/Mari,
I'm officially available to work Tues./Weds.!

Me too.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:34 pm
by George Schilling
Reijo Silvennoinen wrote:Not quite entirely a flip flop.... I ran on Thurs/Fri last year in AS .... and this year Thurs./Fri. in BS since they changed the classes around. There might be others.
R
Ummm, last year you ran in BS. Remember the broken bar, not being able to put down power, I co-drove with you.
We did run on Thursday-Friday.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:45 pm
by Reijo Silvennoinen
Speaking of which.... I have some photos for you George!
R
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:56 pm
by Eric Clements
I didn't say total flip flop. Classes get flip flopped then some get moved back to make the numbers work.
Yes, road tire is being offered for 2012.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:39 pm
by Curt Luther
Eric Clements wrote:Yes, road tire is being offered for 2012.
Let's see. Leave Tuesday morning at 6AM, home by 6AM Sunday. Without changing tires...
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:20 pm
by Keith Brown
I'll believe it when i see it...
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:54 pm
by Kurt Rahn
You'll see it, because that's my plan too. :gpower: :gpower: :gpower:
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:19 pm
by George Schilling
Kurt Rahn wrote:You'll see it, because that's my plan too. :gpower: :gpower: :gpower:
I hope you're putting the car on a trailer and flying......otherwise, you're both insane1
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:43 am
by Curt Luther
George Schilling wrote:Kurt Rahn wrote:You'll see it, because that's my plan too. :gpower: :gpower: :gpower:
I hope you're putting the car on a trailer and flying......otherwise, you're both insane1
1500 miles. 30 hours of driving (conservatively) plus losing 2 hours gets us there at 2PM Wednesday. Register, tech car by 4PM. Run Thursday/Friday. Leave after banquet...if sober...
Alright, I'll be home Sunday at noon...
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:04 am
by Kurt Rahn
Curt Luther wrote:George Schilling wrote:Kurt Rahn wrote:You'll see it, because that's my plan too. :gpower: :gpower: :gpower:
I hope you're putting the car on a trailer and flying......otherwise, you're both insane1
1500 miles. 30 hours of driving (conservatively) plus losing 2 hours gets us there at 2PM Wednesday. Register, tech car by 4PM. Run Thursday/Friday. Leave after banquet...if sober...
Alright, I'll be home Sunday at noon...
Mike Heinitz did it in his Miata a couple years ago. He's my inspiration!
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:15 am
by George Schilling
Kurt Rahn wrote:Mike Heinitz did it in his Miata a couple years ago. He's my inspiration!
Good thing AAA Kurt was there to help or he never would have made it!
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:46 am
by Curt Luther
Kurt Rahn wrote:Curt Luther wrote:George Schilling wrote:I hope you're putting the car on a trailer and flying......otherwise, you're both insane1
1500 miles. 30 hours of driving (conservatively) plus losing 2 hours gets us there at 2PM Wednesday. Register, tech car by 4PM. Run Thursday/Friday. Leave after banquet...if sober...
Alright, I'll be home Sunday at noon...
Mike Heinitz did it in his Miata a couple years ago. He's my inspiration!
Will and Art did it in 2004 as well in the Sentra. Biggest difference is those were ST* cars. Stock class cars should be a better and more reliable ride...in theory...
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:56 pm
by Will Kalman
I drove your HS Civic solo to Topeka non-stop with the exception of a 2-hour nap at 2am in a rest area in Vail (and of course, gas and food stops). Spending $70 for a few hours sleep at a motel didn't make sense. When I sell my Civic, I'm keeping the seats - best seats I've ever had in a car (for general driving). Key for me on long drives like this are multiple liter-bottles of diet Mtn Dew and something other than music to listen to - I had 50 hours of Phil Hendrie in MP3 for that trip. Night driving is much cooler and easier on the car, the eyes, and the A/C.
With two drivers like Art and myself in 2004, it's even easier as long as someone sleeps early so you're not both tired at the same time. Proper ST cars on stock tires aren't that uncomfortable, I drove the Escort to Atwater with the big springs and didn't even move the shocks from their competition settings. The exhaust noise and earplugs were far more annoying.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:30 pm
by Jayson Woodruff
I had some epics traveling in my truck that would put you guys to shame.
It was convenient to have a race car/support vehicle/hotel room all in one vehicle, but it induced some very long weekends.
Southeast Houston to Irvine with just gas stops is my record. Included a multi-hour delay in Phoenix where the I-10 was closed due to police shooting during morning rush hour.
112deg past Baker w/o A/C was memorable. So was the 'splash' back into my sweat pool race seat a 7hours later. Or the 'vertical' nap 3 hours after that. Or the lap top I was using as an MP3 player giving up due to either heat or vibe. At least it was only 100deg in denver that weekend.
Irvine to San Diego to Phoenix to San Diego to El Paso to San Diego to Irvine to San Diego to Irvine was a fun three day weekend.
Last year I towed the MX5 out basically on "Curt's Schedule" without too many issue except swollen ankles when I got home. Piece of cake.
Jay W
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:01 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
[quote="Will Kalman"] Night driving is much cooler and easier on the car, the eyes, and the A/C.
Nights are when the MOOSE come out to play dodge ball with your Dodge truck. Save Bullwinkle!!! Drive in the daylight!!!

Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:33 pm
by Toby Larsson
Steve Ekstrand wrote:Will Kalman wrote: Night driving is much cooler and easier on the car, the eyes, and the A/C.
Nights are when the MOOSE come out to play dodge ball with your Dodge truck. Save Bullwinkle!!! Drive in the daylight!!!

And deer, did some serious damage to Henry Botkins truck going thru the 54.
In 2006 I did 22 hours straight to Kansas towing a trailer, not something I would recomend or ever do again.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:12 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Toby Larsson wrote:
And deer, did some serious damage to Henry Botkins truck going thru the 54.
Okay.... It was probably just a deer. A big old buck with a rack like an LA weathergirl.....
But for just a moment, it looked like a MOOSE.
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:51 pm
by Bobby Beyer
So how does the national championship race work? Do you need to be there for all 4 days our can you show up for only your run days?
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:27 pm
by Rick Brown
Bobby Beyer wrote:So how does the national championship race work? Do you need to be there for all 4 days our can you show up for only your run days?
No need to be there all 4, but you need to arrive the day before you run at a minimum. Gives you a chance to get settled, check in, do some course walks, watch others on the courses (there are two). And cheer on your fellow CSCC competitors!
Re: 2012 Nationals run days
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:43 pm
by Bill Schenker
Oh, and please, please: not have CSP run first again? Really, look at the years past, not just take someone's word for it! We really have run first a lot!
