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Two comments after this blog entry caught my attention:

"That doesn't look so much like an autocross course but rather just the main parking lot with a handful of slaloms thrown in."
"I was expecting a more "legitimate" autoX track with tight turns than just slaloms =D as it is, the ST might have a chance here to win."

There you have it. Comments on Mark's course from the peanut gallery.

Leonard Cachola wrote:"That doesn't look so much like an autocross course but rather just the main parking lot with a handful of slaloms thrown in."

Leonard, you left out the rest of that comment:
"Also, at 38 sec mark you should have just powered into the spin, finish the 360, and proceed upon your way picking up the style points."
I think we should view this guy as the ultimate judge of autocross courses

Edit: Nice DNF

If you've ever had the joy of driving an autox course from some of the competing organization's you'd know what they were talking about. Nothing is more fun than a 30 ft radius u turn at 10-15 mph's all in a course that lasts 25-35 seconds that's a "Real" Autox course.

"Wow, it's been awhile since I got bored with auto-x, but that doesn't look like any SCCA auto-x I ever went to. Wide open, clearly sighted, almost no chance of getting lost in the cones and a lot of time to relax. You know I did a day at a road course once in the middle of Alabama that had tighter sections than that auto-x."

No tight corners? REALLY? The most common complaint I got was about the pin turn at the top of the hill.... At least by people who were approaching it at a decent speed.

Bobby Beyer wrote:If you've ever had the joy of driving an autox course from some of the competing organization's you'd know what they were talking about. Nothing is more fun than a 30 ft radius u turn at 10-15 mph's all in a course that lasts 25-35 seconds that's a "Real" Autox course.

LOL! Seems I have a lot to learn about designing courses. 1st gear, FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw0HveSVtY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mark D.

Mark DeShon wrote:LOL! Seems I have a lot to learn about designing courses. 1st gear, FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw0HveSVtY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mark D.

It would have been MUCH better, but they ran out of cones.

That looks like an awesome motorcycle training course...not sure why they let cars on it though

Mark,

Having the opportunity to take the top of the hill in both rear wheel and front wheel drive( Thank you Pat ) I would have to say Mark, you nailed it.

Having stiff springs will make you faster, over 5 seconds a lap in my case.

I never got the box in the middle right. But I would be willing to try it again. Even with all the visual noise.

Thank you and "we are" really lucky.

Mark DeShon wrote: No tight corners? REALLY? The most common complaint I got was about the pin turn at the top of the hill.... At least by people who were approaching it at a decent speed.

Speaking of tight corners, that right hander right before the finish was BRUTAL if you didn't set up correctly. Which I didn't on my first 3 runs and coned there every time... including one spectacular fail where I drove straight into the last wall cone, hitting it directly in the center of my front bumper.

Great course! Had a blast.

"gtrguy2012 says:

07:37 PM, 11/27/12

Next time take it to a real track, like a real driver. Not stupid autocross like high school kids."

You know, I was a little bummed that I didn't get to go (Don't get me wrong, I had a GREAT time going to the Grand Canyon in a rented RV with my wife and our dog), but now I'm kinda glad I didn't go; I'm sure as h*ll glad I didn't; I wouldn't want to demean myself running around with you losers high schoolers!

I just saw that it looks like he drives a GTR; well then, sure, we are all losers compared to him and his mighty vehicle!

Mark DeShon wrote: LOL! Seems I have a lot to learn about designing courses. 1st gear, FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw0HveSVtY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mark D.

Man, that would have REALLY sucked if I was driving the boat, err, I mean, the BMW.

Bill Schenker wrote:I just saw that it looks like he drives a GTR; well then, sure, we are all losers compared to him and his mighty vehicle!

You mean the car that requires no actual driving skills because it makes all the crucial decisions by itself? But hey, it's really expensive, so he's a baller, right?

Kurt Rahn wrote:

Bill Schenker wrote:I just saw that it looks like he drives a GTR; well then, sure, we are all losers compared to him and his mighty vehicle!

You mean the car that requires no actual driving skills because it makes all the crucial decisions by itself? But hey, it's really expensive, so he's a baller, right?

He's probably just pissed his gtr got beat by a miata at an autox.

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/2 ... .html#more

I got a mention on the next blog entry.

Bill Schenker wrote:"gtrguy2012 says:

07:37 PM, 11/27/12

Next time take it to a real track, like a real driver. Not stupid autocross like high school kids."

You know, I was a little bummed that I didn't get to go (Don't get me wrong, I had a GREAT time going to the Grand Canyon in a rented RV with my wife and our dog), but now I'm kinda glad I didn't go; I'm sure as h*ll glad I didn't; I wouldn't want to demean myself running around with you losers high schoolers!

I just saw that it looks like he drives a GTR; well then, sure, we are all losers compared to him and his mighty vehicle!

Hey... Isn't that the guy from the "flat out" videos? ;)
Mark D.

Mark DeShon wrote:

Bill Schenker wrote:"gtrguy2012 says:

07:37 PM, 11/27/12

Next time take it to a real track, like a real driver. Not stupid autocross like high school kids."

You know, I was a little bummed that I didn't get to go (Don't get me wrong, I had a GREAT time going to the Grand Canyon in a rented RV with my wife and our dog), but now I'm kinda glad I didn't go; I'm sure as h*ll glad I didn't; I wouldn't want to demean myself running around with you losers high schoolers!

I just saw that it looks like he drives a GTR; well then, sure, we are all losers compared to him and his mighty vehicle!

Hey... Isn't that the guy from the "flat out" videos? ;)
Mark D.

That's it!!!!!

Leonard Cachola wrote:http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/2 ... p-one.html

Two comments after this blog entry caught my attention:

"That doesn't look so much like an autocross course but rather just the main parking lot with a handful of slaloms thrown in."
"I was expecting a more "legitimate" autoX track with tight turns than just slaloms =D as it is, the ST might have a chance here to win."

There you have it. Comments on Mark's course from the peanut gallery.

I ALWAYS get a kick out of ignorant people

Mark DeShon wrote:"Wow, it's been awhile since I got bored with auto-x, but that doesn't look like any SCCA auto-x I ever went to. Wide open, clearly sighted, almost no chance of getting lost in the cones and a lot of time to relax. You know I did a day at a road course once in the middle of Alabama that had tighter sections than that auto-x."

No tight corners? REALLY? The most common complaint I got was about the pin turn at the top of the hill.... At least by people who were approaching it at a decent speed.

Bobby Beyer wrote:If you've ever had the joy of driving an autox course from some of the competing organization's you'd know what they were talking about. Nothing is more fun than a 30 ft radius u turn at 10-15 mph's all in a course that lasts 25-35 seconds that's a "Real" Autox course.

LOL! Seems I have a lot to learn about designing courses. 1st gear, FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw0HveSVtY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mark D.

Mark, I thought you course was great. I'm not one to measure from, but it kicked my butt. I finally got it on the last run...well, sort of...

Notice how he completely let go of the steering wheel in his slide/spin and lets it turn freely, and then again in each of the slaloms immediately following, he continues to do it a half dozen times throughout the remainder of the course.
Does the FRS come with an autopilot mode?

Craig Naylor wrote:Notice how he completely let go of the steering wheel in his slide/spin and lets it turn freely, and then again in each of the slaloms immediately following, he continues to do it a half dozen times throughout the remainder of the course.
Does the FRS come with an autopilot mode?

That was an early run. Here's what he did after I coached him for a run:

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/2 ... -laps.html