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Only a few days left until SCNAX Cup. Here are the teams w/ numbers & driver handicaps. If you want to add your driver #'s (##, 1##, 2##) and what car you'll be driving (to help us in the timing trailer), please add that information directly here: http://goo.gl/7VSlPD

We will be requesting any missing information at Registration directly. PLEASE DO NOT post corrections here or email/pm me - edit the document directly.

Team handicaps are listed next to the team name. Individual handicaps are listed next to the individual after their number.

Team 1 (No Name) - .909
Cars: ES, GS, and CST
Brian Kelly ## - .838
Mitch Metling 1## - .890
Frank Rodriguez 2## - 1 (no info given)

Team 2 (S2 Crew) - .924
Cars: CS, DS
Guy Walker 88 - .936
Ken Lord 188 - .937
Kurt Rahn 288 - .898

Team 3 (Team of Constant Sorrow) - .877
Cars: STC, FS
Steve Ekstrand 15 - .926
Sheldon Ekstrand 115 - .861
Tadd Ekstrand 215- .843

Team 4 (We are Groot!) - .906
Cars: ES, STX, CST
Leonard Cachola 86 - .912
Paul Churgin 286 - .902
Austin Wood 186 - .904

Team 5 (Two Guys and a Girl) - .918
Cars: STF, STC, STS
Bobby Beyer ## - .916
Stacey Miller 1## - .915
Craig Naylor 2## - .922

Team 6 (Team M & M) - .911
Cars: STS, CST
Pete Loney ## - .929
Michael Bradley 1## - .883
Art Rinner 2## - .922

Team 7 (WAT Racing) - .885
Cars: HS, AS, BS
Adam Tarnoff ## - .835
Tim Bassignana 1## - .907
Brandon Porambo 2## - .914

Team 8 (Project WAT) - .968 - still deciding what pax to give them
Cars: BS, STC< BSP
Justin Rote* ## - 1 (no events)
Oscar Gargiulo 1## - .905
Kevin Lerner* 2## - 1 (no events)

Team 9 (Space Cadets) - .889
Cars: CS, DS
Jeff Stuart 13 - .967
Orian Radtke 113 - .869
Jonathan Levine 213 - .832

Team 10 (We're Idiots and Teamed up with Tom) - .943
Cars: ASP, FS, CST
Tom Berry ## - 1 (ouch!)
Matt Ales 1## - .948
Kyle O'Rourke - .882

Team 11 (Old Farts) - .921
Cars: CM, STC, XP
George Schilling ## - .937
Stephen Yeoh 1## - .954
Stanley Kowalski 2## - .872

Team 12 (Don't Be Chang) - .914
Cars: CS, HS
Mike Yanase 281 - .930
Terence Chang 181 - .898
Sean Fenstermacher 81 - .913

Team 13 (Cone Aces!) - .909
Cars: RWD, AWD
Jonathan Hartendorp ## - .914
Dung Nguyen 1## - .916
Derek Punch 2## - .897

Team 14 (Pixie Chix) - .903
Cars: HS, STX
Jessica Pao 170 - .904
Shelley Tom 270 - .861
Catherine Tran 70 - .943

Quoc-Viet Dang wrote: Team 10 (We're Idiots and Teamed up with Tom) - .943
Cars: ASP, FS, CST
Tom Berry ## - 1 (ouch!)
Matt Ales 1## - .948
Kyle O'Rourke - .882

.943, Lol - would now be the correct time to start complaining about PAX, and tires, weather, hangovers, the clouds, surface sucks for our cars, and any other reasons for loosing.

Matt Ales wrote:

Quoc-Viet Dang wrote: Team 10 (We're Idiots and Teamed up with Tom) - .943
Cars: ASP, FS, CST
Tom Berry ## - 1 (ouch!)
Matt Ales 1## - .948
Kyle O'Rourke - .882

.943, Lol - would now be the correct time to start complaining about PAX, and tires, weather, hangovers, the clouds, surface sucks for our cars, and any other reasons for loosing.

losing...losing!
MATT

dude matt you are the second fastest street car in our region. what did you expect your pax to be?

at least it isn't 1 LOL

Quoc-Viet Dang wrote: Team 1 (No Name) - .909
Cars: ES, GS, and CST
Brian Kelly ## - .838
Mitch Metling 1## - .890
Frank Rodriguez 2## - 1 (no info given)

Updated team name & Frank's PAX info on Google spreadsheet.

Mike Yanase wrote:
losing...losing!
MATT

dude matt you are the second fastest street car in our region. what did you expect your pax to be?

at least it isn't 1 LOL

Man I suck at spelling. I actually didn't expect my personal PAX to be that high. But I was LOLing at our Team Pax. At least we named our team appropriately.

Did we have any AWD or RWD single drivers looking for a team. Tadd bailed on us today and last night I found out Sheldon's 335 F Street morphed into a H Street 2015 Mini Cooper.

So two FWD's.... Mini Coopers do well in H-Street. And of course, lil blue is one of the best prepped STC cars in the country.

Come drive with the Ekstrand Brothers.... PLEASE!!!!

Matt should change the team name to Team We Average Catherine Tran.

I know SCNAX II (two) exceeded ten teams, going out on a limb here... but this may be the most SCNAX teams ever!

Saw the note regarding not being sure what to give a team pax for team #8 (Wat).

It's been a few years... while seeing a team avg is interesting... I don't think it's actually used for anything.

As I recall (from running the excel spreadsheet years ago) when running your own car, you use your personal pax straight up in your own car. When driving one of your teammates cars you use a modified pax (your pax * class pax/2) Your not expected to be able to drive another car as well as you drive your own, but better drivers are expected to be better than lesser drivers. Because of this pax multiplication on teammates cars... the team pax would never come into play,,, as you personally have the potential of three different paxes driving the three different classed cars.

I would normally suggest assigning the non-event history participants a pax equal to the highest pax... but with Tom's 1.0 ... (unless one of them has professional racing experience) maybe the next highest personal pax would be appropriate.

Hey, team Leader for Project WAT here.

A couple things.

First, numbers
We'd like to use 77
Oscar: 77
Kevin: 177
Justin: 277

Second,
As far as setting a base pax for the 2 drivers with no prior experience. I'd just like to point out that Justin has only ever done 1 track event (Streets of Willow CW with a time, if I remember correctly, about 1:39). And Kevin has done no events before.

Also kind of confused how my personal pax is. .905 if you wouldn't mind explaining. I know STC's (the class I run) pax is around .82-.86(?) and I've never even come close to first haha

Oscar Gargiulo wrote:
Second,
As far as setting a base pax for the 2 drivers with no prior experience. I'd just like to point out that Justin has only ever done 1 track event (Streets of Willow CW with a time, if I remember correctly, about 1:39). And Kevin has done no events before.

Just for a frame of reference, I've done at 1:36 at streets. And FTD was something like 1:19 in a modified time attack z06

Craig Naylor wrote:I know SCNAX II (two) exceeded ten teams, going out on a limb here... but this may be the most SCNAX teams ever!

Yes, I believe you are right! This could be the best SCNAX Cup Ever!

Art Rinner wrote:Yes, I believe you are right! This c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ will be the best SCNAX Cup Ever!

Fixed that for ya!

Oscar Gargiulo wrote:Hey, team Leader for Project WAT here.

A couple things.

First, numbers
We'd like to use 77
Oscar: 77
Kevin: 177
Justin: 277

Second,
As far as setting a base pax for the 2 drivers with no prior experience. I'd just like to point out that Justin has only ever done 1 track event (Streets of Willow CW with a time, if I remember correctly, about 1:39). And Kevin has done no events before.

Also kind of confused how my personal pax is. .905 if you wouldn't mind explaining. I know STC's (the class I run) pax is around .82-.86(?) and I've never even come close to first haha

Oscar your drivers PAX is based on your results in the last three events. Your teammates have been penalized for not having anything to base them on, any index we use will be unfair to them, But I think .950 should be the drivers handicap for no event drivers, difficult but if one of them is an alien you might still have a chance.

With this many teams its a shame we can't get Sports Car to do a write up on it? Or can we, Jason I. ?

Art Rinner wrote:With this many teams its a shame we can't get Sports Car to do a write up on it? Or can we, Jason I. ?

That would be fantastic to see in Sports Car.

Craig Naylor wrote:Saw the note regarding not being sure what to give a team pax for team #8 (Wat).

It's been a few years... while seeing a team avg is interesting... I don't think it's actually used for anything.

As I recall (from running the excel spreadsheet years ago) when running your own car, you use your personal pax straight up in your own car. When driving one of your teammates cars you use a modified pax (your pax * class pax/2) Your not expected to be able to drive another car as well as you drive your own, but better drivers are expected to be better than lesser drivers. Because of this pax multiplication on teammates cars... the team pax would never come into play,,, as you personally have the potential of three different paxes driving the three different classed cars.

I would normally suggest assigning the non-event history participants a pax equal to the highest pax... but with Tom's 1.0 ... (unless one of them has professional racing experience) maybe the next highest personal pax would be appropriate.

Doesn't make any sense to me Craig. Your individual pax is top paxed time divided by your paxed time averaged across three events. We are comparing paxed times. The driver index is applied to your paxed time in the car so theoretically your car and Tom Berry's are equaled out and you and Tom Berry are equaled out. Sorry, I had to lol. I came up with a driver pax for Hi Ly of .911. Tell me that isn't funny! And our team pax goes from .877 to .899. I can't see the value of the team pax unless you want to apply the average driver pax (team pax) at the end so its easy to see "gross and net" as it were for the team totals. Either way comes up with the same results in the end. I think.

How will the team pax apply? Will our runs be paxed by our individual runs, then our combined times paxed by team pax? I'm confused

Adam Tarnoff wrote:How will the team pax apply? Will our runs be paxed by our individual runs, then our combined times paxed by team pax? I'm confused

Its there for reference purpose only.

Dang, didn't know that numbers were wide open, sort of.

Someone already took mine basically. Since I run 777 locally. I would have like to used th 77 combos.

Art, what we gonna do??

I have Ones, Lots of Sevens, a set of 3's No 2's

Are times/results posted somewhere?

^Results will be posted later this evening so...

STAY TUNED! ;)