Oh, yeah, that's a good point - I remember Kent being the most "unique" surface I raced on, I just loved it's locationKeith Brown wrote:Annie, you have your rose colored hindsight goggles on. While the Kent site was big, it was a gravel field.
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Oh, yeah, that's a good point - I remember Kent being the most "unique" surface I raced on, I just loved it's locationKeith Brown wrote:Annie, you have your rose colored hindsight goggles on. While the Kent site was big, it was a gravel field.
So did I, less than 10 minutes from the houseAnnie Bauer wrote: I just loved it's location
Too late Steve... we are already on it dude.Steve Ekstrand wrote:Hey Tom Berry!
Should we contact Howard about two swings through Nirvana...uhm, El Toro? Maybe a storage option available at El Toro would encourage participation in both SD and the two El Toro events???
I'd love a return to Castle is that is possible, but lets not lose a West Coast pro again. Lets start early to see if an El Toro back up is possible.
We don't notice any bad smells at El Toro after running at AAA speedway all this time with the garbage sorting site next door. :barf:Michael Wood wrote:If it is at Wendover, count me in.
I don't know why you guys are so excited about El Toro, so much so as to want a second Pro there...place chews up tires and smells like a landfill...![]()
JK, it is a great site for course designers to play with and has lots of (very abrasive) grip.
You know I'm just playing around, El Toro is a very cool site and you guys are lucky to have sites like that available for big events. I do think El Toro is tough on tires, but I've only run there once, big Hoosiers/little RX8 rims, and had Matthew Braun also hammering on the car, so maybe I'm biased...Aaron Goldsmith wrote:We don't notice any bad smells at El Toro after running at AAA speedway all this time with the garbage sorting site next door. :barf:Michael Wood wrote:If it is at Wendover, count me in.
I don't know why you guys are so excited about El Toro, so much so as to want a second Pro there...place chews up tires and smells like a landfill...![]()
JK, it is a great site for course designers to play with and has lots of (very abrasive) grip.
Never noticed El Toro being much harder on tires than the other sites down here.
Michael Wood wrote:All I can tell you is there are a LOT of moving pieces in this story...some would argue too many.
It is a bummer, no matter to what you attribute the cancellation.
With the highway 54 "Shortcut", it's only ~20 miles less to Lincoln, but over 2 hours closer. And there really is only one good way to get there: 15->70->76->80.Steve Ekstrand wrote:I'm sort of surprised Lincoln is only 200 further. Is Lincoln shorter than Topeka? Time to map out the schedule again. My memory fails...
I used to have all the major events sites saved along with side trips and such. Damn hard drive crashes....
It's only a week earlier than when you did that (2003). Are you sure you were on the Falkens? In 2002, we drove out on different tires. Did you have no room in the car with all your stuff?Steve Ekstrand wrote:Glad Nationals is earlier. Driving Avard's Protege back over 70 in the snow on 2/32nds Flaken 215's was a little stressful.
A week earlier would have also solved the football/hotel room issue as well (rooms will be tight on Friday/Saturday nights due to football games).Steve Ekstrand wrote:Though a week earlier would have solved the school issues....
Crap, guess I should get one of thems.David Avard wrote: Of course, the local hotels have figured out that we'll be there as well, raising prices by the same amount as they do for football games (at one hotel, rates have gone from $60 to $90 a night for the whole week of Nationals, which previously only charged more on Friday and Saturday nights for the football crowd.) Nice to know that the city of Lincoln is taking advantage of having an extra 1000 people in motels that week.
It would probably help to know which days you are running, of course if you are running in a class other than ST (formerly STS), you can probably figure that it will be opposite last year. I just booked for the entire week (except for the Pro Finale, as that involved the two most expensive days).Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Crap, guess I should get one of thems.David Avard wrote: Of course, the local hotels have figured out that we'll be there as well, raising prices by the same amount as they do for football games (at one hotel, rates have gone from $60 to $90 a night for the whole week of Nationals, which previously only charged more on Friday and Saturday nights for the football crowd.) Nice to know that the city of Lincoln is taking advantage of having an extra 1000 people in motels that week.
YES!Christine Berry wrote:Alameda has been replaced with Wendover a week later (4/25-26/09)
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Can you imagine Wendover in April? It might actually be "pleasent"
I hope someone stops by to feed him once in a while.Max Hayter wrote:... and some plane from a movie with John Travolta just sitting there.