Apparently the school didn't help....he wrecked later that year. So sad for the car.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Were you around a few years ago when the Enzo driver was taking Evo school?
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Who will be faster, Fisi or Kimi?Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The worst kept secret in F1....but good for Giancarlo. Happy for him. And if he wins at the next race??? An Italian driver, driving for an Italian team, racing at Monza, Italy??? The tifosi will explode!Bob Beamesderfer wrote:After two lackluster races by test driver Luca Badoer, Ferrari has signed Giancarlo Fisichella for the remainder of the season.
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New Massa pictures:
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Yeah, I think if it hadn't happened it would have been bigger news. If he wins at Monza, they're going to crack the bells from ringing them.Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The worst kept secret in F1....but good for Giancarlo. Happy for him. And if he wins at the next race??? An Italian driver, driving for an Italian team, racing at Monza, Italy??? The tifosi will explode!Bob Beamesderfer wrote:After two lackluster races by test driver Luca Badoer, Ferrari has signed Giancarlo Fisichella for the remainder of the season.
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He wrecked when he hit a spot on closed for the even public road and got airborne. Not quite the same as wrecking a car at autocross. }:)Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Apparently the school didn't help....he wrecked later that year. So sad for the car.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Were you around a few years ago when the Enzo driver was taking Evo school?
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They were close at Spa, but I think Kimi's always been the faster driver.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Who will be faster, Fisi or Kimi?Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The worst kept secret in F1....but good for Giancarlo. Happy for him. And if he wins at the next race??? An Italian driver, driving for an Italian team, racing at Monza, Italy??? The tifosi will explode!Bob Beamesderfer wrote:After two lackluster races by test driver Luca Badoer, Ferrari has signed Giancarlo Fisichella for the remainder of the season.
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But never forget the "emotion" Giancarlo is running on...and he TOO will have KERS, so at Monza I expect them to both be equal. But in general...the Kimster would be quicker than Giancarlo (same when he was teammates with Alonso at Renault and Fernando was faster).Bob Beamesderfer wrote:They were close at Spa, but I think Kimi's always been the faster driver.
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Here's a trivia question: What do Kimi and Giancarlo have in common other than driving for Ferrari?Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:But never forget the "emotion" Giancarlo is running on...and he TOO will have KERS, so at Monza I expect them to both be equal. But in general...the Kimster would be quicker than Giancarlo (same when he was teammates with Alonso at Renault and Fernando was faster).Bob Beamesderfer wrote:They were close at Spa, but I think Kimi's always been the faster driver.
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If the car's are equal and Giancarlo can get up to speed in the new ride with one practice session, then I think Kimi stands to get embarrassed. Why do you think he won? Actually drove hard because he couldn't watch as the new guy scores the first win of the season. Maybe we'll see the Kimi talent upclose two weeks in a row, but I'd fire his ass anyway. Who wants a driver that doesn't care to give his all til it suits him.
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There actually three practice sessions; two Friday and one Saturday.Steve Ekstrand wrote:If the car's are equal and Giancarlo can get up to speed in the new ride with one practice session, then I think Kimi stands to get embarrassed. Why do you think he won? Actually drove hard because he couldn't watch as the new guy scores the first win of the season. Maybe we'll see the Kimi talent upclose two weeks in a row, but I'd fire his ass anyway. Who wants a driver that doesn't care to give his all til it suits him.
Fisi proved that his talent is still there and because the Force India car is no longer a backmarker at every single race he was close throughout. So if the Ferrari isn't worlds different he should be just as competitive as Kimi. Kimi still knows the car better and that gives him an edge; if he doesn't party too much the night before.
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What?Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Here's a trivia question: What do Kimi and Giancarlo have in common other than driving for Ferrari?
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They both drove for Sauber.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:What?Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Here's a trivia question: What do Kimi and Giancarlo have in common other than driving for Ferrari?
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Aha, OK.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:They both drove for Sauber.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:What?Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Here's a trivia question: What do Kimi and Giancarlo have in common other than driving for Ferrari?
Kimi Raikkonen:
2009 Scuderia Ferrari Driver, Car #3
2008 Scuderia Ferrari Driver (75 points, 3rd in WDC)
2007 Scuderia Ferrari Driver, World Champion (110 points)
2006 Team McLaren Mercedes (65 points, 5th in WDC)
2005 Team McLaren Mercedes (112 points, 2nd in WDC)
2004 Team McLaren Mercedes (45 points, 7th in WDC)
2003 Team McLaren Mercedes (91 points, 2nd in WDC)
2002 Team McLaren Mercedes (24 points, 6th in WDC)
2001 Sauber Petronas (62 points, 7th in WDC)
Giancarlo Fisichella:
2009 Force India F1 Team, Car #21
2008 Force India F1 Team (19th, 0 points)
2007 ING Renault F1 Team (8th, 21 points)
2006 Mild Seven Renault F1 Team (4th, 72 points)
2005 Mild Seven Renault F1 Team (5th, 58 points)
2004 Sauber Petronas (11th, 22 points)
2003 Jordan Ford (12th, 12 points)
2002 DHL Jordan Honda (11th, 7 points)
2001 Mild Seven Benetton Renault (11th, 8 points)
2000 Mild Seven Benetton Playlife (6th, 18 points)
1999 Mild Seven Benetton Playlife (9th, 13 points)
1998 Mild Seven Benetton Playlife (9th, 16 points)
1997 B&H Total Jordan Peugeot (8th, 20 points)
1996 Minardi Team, 8 races
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Fisi has five seasons with Jordan/Force India, skipping the MF-1 and Spyker iterations. Seven seasons driving for a team run by Flavio "Mr. Fix-It" Briatore.
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Looking better:
Ferrari's Felipe Massa and team principal Stefano Domenicali, Maranello, Italy, 5 October 2009.

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No date given but must be pretty recent, maybe at his kart test...

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Ferrari's Felipe Massa and team principal Stefano Domenicali, Maranello, Italy, 5 October 2009.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 10064.html
No date given but must be pretty recent, maybe at his kart test...

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I was busy trying to get my car working, too bad, because back in August I could've told you, Gio, that YOU'RE ON DRUGS! Do you not realize that when they went back to slicks, Ferrari brought in Schumi, being he was the only one still around that had experience w/that type of tire.Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:And Bill Schenker is NOWHERE in sight on the boards.....hmmmmm. His silence is deafening!Marshall Grice wrote:Gio gets a reprieve. http://www.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/football/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
no schumi.
But a part of me did want to see him return but reality was, no f-ing way can he just "jump in" to this new car. If the rules had been the same since his last season of driving, then the car would've been similar, and had he not wrecked doing bikes maybe. Oh well....the Ferrari empire is crumbling.
My guess if he would've been able to get into the cockpit? In the first race he would've humiliated the Kimster. Glad to see the Slacker going to McLaren. As much as I didn't like Alonso in the past, I think the guy's grown up and could do so amazing things @ Ferrari if they give him a good car next season - he can obviously drive incredibly well.
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Oh, and one more thing, Gio. The Ferrari Empire is crumbling? Then what do call what happened to Team Shopping Kart?! I'll tell you: Team Run-Back-To-The-Black-Forest-With-Your-Tail-Between-Your-Legs. Or maybe just, Team Can't-Take-The-Heat.
It would appear that Patch's Mower is the fastest Shopping Kart in the world now!
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This is quite probably true.....Bill Schenker wrote: It would appear that Patch's Mower is the fastest Shopping Kart in the world now!
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Oh I see your motor mouth is finally working.....as opposed to the one in the Miata that keeps going....KABLAMO?Bill Schenker wrote:Oh, and one more thing, Gio. The Ferrari Empire is crumbling? Then what do call what happened to Team Shopping Kart?! I'll tell you: Team Run-Back-To-The-Black-Forest-With-Your-Tail-Between-Your-Legs. Or maybe just, Team Can't-Take-The-Heat.
It would appear that Patch's Mower is the fastest Shopping Kart in the world now!

BMW is in the business to sell cars, just like Honda. Ferrari is owned by Fiat, and if the Italians who can't seem to run a team (too many cooks in the kitchen), decide that F1 is too expensive, they could pull out too, so don't get too cocky tifosi Bill. And how stupid were they to force Schumi into "retirement" yet they come begging back? Even I who rooted against him, did not want him to leave. What a dumb move. As you can see, they're mid-pack at best, and McLaren will pass them by this year and they'll be in 4th place.
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I think Ferrari and McLaren will both be back on top next year. Though I totally don't understand McL wanting anything to do with Kimi.
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You always know you'll have booze and chicks at the parties..Steve Ekstrand wrote:I think Ferrari and McLaren will both be back on top next year. Though I totally don't understand McL wanting anything to do with Kimi.