Jonathan Lugod wrote:It'll lead to having the best car of the whole class as Aaron has stated. So you'll have two more spec "Stock" classes but on street tires.
Here's the reason that won't happen: as opposed to other classes, the PAX for each class changes each year, so while a Mini Cooper S may be the "it" car one year, the next it's mid-pack after taking it in the pants on PAX. SK is the only place (nationally) where PAX would actually matter across classes.
Jonathan Lugod wrote:Not only that but then we would have to rely on some kind of Index for all the individual classes. I'm sure it goes a lot deeper than this.
What's the problem with the way we do it: use the stock class PAX, then apply a single universal SK index afterwards? Doesn't seem all that complicated to me.
Jonathan Lugod wrote:There is already a thread in the SD forum talking about SK1/2 PAX and how some feel is too harsh.
I haven't read the thread, but it seems to me that's a local issue. Whatever additional index a region wants to assign to street tired stock classes is up to the region. If they don't like it, they can change it. In a national event, the SK PAX is irrelevant to anyone except the SK classes. Also, keep in mind that this is the same region that felt so threatened by the FJs they wouldn't let them run until this year.
Jonathan Lugod wrote:Typically most of those who participate in SK1/2 are underprepared and are not in the search for maximizing their car's potential in regards to setup.
So the cars that aren't fully prepped get spanked. Different from other classes how? I agree that the local SK classes are entry-level classes in general, but the top tier of SK in CalClub are pretty good drivers. At a national event, I think in most cases you'd see the same level of prep and caliber of driver as any other class. BTW, what's wrong with entry level? Everyone was a noob at some point.
Jonathan Lugod wrote:It is indeed a good way to boost participation, but i also see SK1/2 as a way of building the drivers skill through competition of their peers to ENCOURAGE moving up to STOCK class. Be it... PAX for street tired stock cars, then moving up to their designated stock class on R comps.
Given the cost of R comps and how quickly Minis go thru them, I'm personally very unlikely to go to the stock classes. More likely to do what I'm doing and co-drive something else. So where do these improved drivers go once they're good enough to compete nationally if they don't have the means to fork out that kind of money, but still want to be challenged? I can think of a lot of people who don't have the means to buy 2-3 sets of r-comps at $1200-2000 a pop, but are still really good drivers. More importantly, how would a national SK class have an adverse impact on you personally? Is it something that would have a direct negative impact, or is it just something that annoys you? Remember that as an ST(S) driver, before your class was recognized nationally (and still today, even) people opposed it. If their opposition held up, what would you be driving?
when it rains on the weekend we run. I always get called in, to measure stream flow at some unstable river/creek site during these events. Thanks Lily and Ron.
