Glen Helen II: "Gymkhana This!" Oct 9-10th 2010

[Dave Haws]

Glen Helen II: "Gymkhana This!" Oct 9-10th. 2010



Who wants to get down and dirty? So Cal Rallycross is back at Glen Helen!!

So you think you got what it takes to be the next Ken Block? Well, there's only one way to find out. Come out to Glen Helen to get your dirty drifting fix and test your skills against So Cal's hottest Rallycross drivers!

Just like the 1st Glen Helen race this year, this is a two day event. Saturday is going to be a practice day (no event timing provided) and Sunday is race day. Also as before, GH is featuring 6 laps on race day instead of the traditional 4. This means more seat time for you! Entries capped at 45 to ensure everyone gets the 6 laps.

Race Entry Fee’s:

$60 Pre-Reg AND Pre Pay

Pre Reg is OPEN, go here: http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/ ... 34738EBEB2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pre-reg / Pre pay ends on Sept. 18th!! Price is $80 after that point.

$80 Day of / walk up (if there are spots left)

Practice Day:

$10 / lap or $40 for 5 laps*

*One free lap for CRS or SCCA members who pre reg + pre pay for race day. Anyone can participate in the practice day. You do not need to be entered in the race.

Please Note: This is an SCCA sanctioned and insured event. As such, you must be an SCCA member to participate. If you are not a member, weekend memberships are available on site for $5.

For walk up reg and practice day, cash is king. No checks or Paypal accepted.


Prizes

In the event of a sell out, the 1st place winner of each class will be awarded $60 CASH!! Minimum 4 competitors per class.


Classing

See 2nd post

Map of Sunday's Course



Event Staff

Event Organizer: Dave Haws dhaws@verizon.net
Roaming Helper: Louie Minette
Safety + Tech Steward: The Humungous!!....AKA Mike Malsed
Course Maintenance: Dean Dominguez
Volunteer and Grid Steward: Chris Walker
Timing + Scoring: Jayson Woodruff


OVERNIGHT CAMPING WILL BE AVAILABLE

Since this is a two day event, camping will be available for people who want to stay on-site. The best part of the deal that the camping is FREE!! Yup, that right…..nada, zip, zero, zilch. Camping will be in the pits, so please don’t spread out too much. (Map of location coming soon).

Camping Rules:

1.) Don’t Litter!! Pack out what you pack in.
2.) Hibachi grills / small bbq’s are OK
3.) Fires are OK, but be SAFE and reasonable.
4.) Be kind to your neighbors. You know….don’t play loud music until 3am or piss on their tent after you had too many beers!


SCHEDULE:

Saturday

Gates Open @ 8am

Open practice from 9am - 4pm*

* No event timing. If you want to be timed, bring a stopwatch and a friend!

Sunday

7am - 8:30am: Registration and Tech for Street Stock and Mod classes
8:45am: Drivers Meeting for Street Stock and Street Mod classes
9am - 11am: Street Stock Two and Four (street mod works)
11am - 1:30pm: Street Mod Two and Four (street stock works)
1:30pm - 1:45pm: Registration and Tech for Rally Two and Four
1:45pm: Drivers meeting for Rally Class
2pm to 5pm: Rally Two and Four (work for each other)

Please note that this is a “run and work” event. You are required to work at least once. Work duties include: shagging downed cones on course, timing control, working the grid or other jobs. If you do not work, your times will NOT be counted. There will be a Volunteer Steward to organize the workers and record who did / did not work.

Work schedule:

Street Mod works for Street Stock and vice versa. Rally Four works for Rally Two and vice versa.

DIRECTIONS TO GLEN HELEN

Glen Helen Raceway (http://www.glenhelen.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) is a motocross track near where the 15 and 215 freeways meet in San Bernardino.


* I-215 - if you're coming from the South or East, take 215N; if from the West, take 15N to 215S; if from the N, take 215S
* exit Palm Ave - go WEST
* cross RR tracks - continue straight (road jogs about 10 feet)
* turn RIGHT on Verdemont Ranch Rd
* about 500 yards, enter chain-link gate on RIGHT (look for all the Subies LOL) - follow dirt road
* SPEED LIMIT IN PITS - 10MPH - there will be people walking around and dust to minimize




Entry / Pre-paid list

1. Eli Gilbert
2. Phil Stewart-Jones
3. Chris Drong
4. Robert Shoemaker
5. Bill Martin
6. Dave Peters
7. John Chabot
8. Pete Landry
9. Bret Norgaard
10. Paul Medlen
11. Kassie Sasaki
12. Tony Sun
13. Jeff Pera
14. Alexander Linde
15. Marvin Ronquillo
16. Eric Martin
17. Frankie Ho
18. Makoto Fukuwa
19. Art Singtoroj
20. Jon Rea
21. Aaron Ekinaka
22. Brian Dreger
23. Larry Gross
24. Larry Gross (2nd entry)
25. Lance Gross
26. Lorne Curtis
27. Isamu Kakitani
28. Trent Koury
29. John Stewart
30. Tsukasa Gushi
31. Robert Medlen

[Dave Haws]

Classing

Street Stock 2wd (SS2) & Street Stock 4wd (SS4):

The name Street Stock comes from Street tires with Stock preparation level. As such these classes are for cars that have limited performance modifications, and are using street tires. Street tires include those tires sold as “Passenger Tires”. Street tires do not include ice/winter specific tires (currently designated by the mountain/snowflake emblem or the words ice/snow in the tire name), light truck tires (designated by “LT” on the sidewall), or tires designated for rally or competition use. The original tread may not be modified (siped or grooved). SS2 will be for two-wheel drive cars and SS4 will be for four-wheel drive cars. Street Stock Class cars must be stock (or equivalent) with the following exceptions:

* The exhaust system does not need to be stock behind the catalytic converter.
* Replacement air filter elements are allowed.
* Computer chip upgrades are allowed.


Street Modified 2wd (SM2) & Street Modified 4wd (SM4):

The name Street Modified comes from Street tires (which in this case include ice/winter tires) with a Modified preparation level. As such, these classes are for cars that have been modified beyond the limits detailed above and are using street tires or ice/winter specific tires (currently designated by the mountain/snowflake emblem or the words ice/snow in the tire name). Light truck tires (designated by “LT” on the sidewall) are not allowed, nor are tires designated for rally or competition use. The original tread may not be modified (siped or grooved). SM2 will be for two-wheel drive cars and SM4 will be for four-wheel drive cars.

Rally 2wd & Rally 4wd:

Cars running tires that do not qualify for the "Street" classes will be placed in either the Rally 2wd or Rally 4wd class.
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[Ron Tsumura]

Just wondering if a Honda CRV AWD be ok in the stock class? Are there high center of gravity considerations?

[Jayson Woodruff]

Just wondering if a Honda CRV AWD be ok in the stock class? Are there high center of gravity considerations?

Stock CRV should be fine, but you should get the okay from the primary safety steward (Mike Malsed). I don't have Mike's current address, but the event chair should be able to get him: Dave Haws dhaws@verizon.net

Jay W

[Dave Haws]

Thanks Jayson.

I just talked to Mike and he is OK with a stock CRV. Also, the stock classes run first, so the course is smooth and ruts are not a problem 99% of the time.

[Mark DeShon]

That looks like so much fun! Maybe I should build another 914 for RallyCross.
Mark D.

[Mako Koiwai]

Ken M, Jason U, George D, Roman, Seb and I did this back in '06 ... had a blast ... all of us AX'ers did well because we were close to the cones. The regulars like to do big power slides around the corners but they're way off the cones. Roman and I rented a Neon and came in 1st and 2nd in I guess 2wd Stock. Make sure you get the extra insurance!

Photos: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/solo_i ... lly_cross/

Lots of winning Swag:

[Jayson Woodruff]

Yeah, autoXers have the distinct advantage of being disciplined drivers.

I told Dave this event was well placed on the schedule to get some decent cross over participation from the AutoX scene (after Nats, in between champs). I know they appreciate the added attendance, as well as the added competition.

BTW, I should be running the Timing and Scoring, and probably have a little influance on operations this day.

Jay W

Ken M, Jason U, George D, Roman, Seb and I did this back in '06 ... had a blast ... all of us AX'ers did well because we were close to the cones. The regulars like to do big power slides around the corners but they're way off the cones. Roman and I rented a Neon and came in 1st and 2nd in I guess 2wd Stock.

[Sebastian Rios]

[quote="Jayson Woodruff"]Yeah, autoXers have the distinct advantage of being disciplined drivers.

I told Dave this event was well placed on the schedule to get some decent cross over participation from the AutoX scene (after Nats, in between champs). I know they appreciate the added attendance, as well as the added competition.

BTW, I should be running the Timing and Scoring, and probably have a little influance on operations this day.

Jay W

I thought there would be no timing. Didn't the OP say something about bring a stopwatch?

[Mako Koiwai]

probably have a little influance on operations this day.

hmmm, I can see the headlines .... "CSCC AX'er Sweep Glen Helen II!"

[Mako Koiwai]

No Timing on SATURDAY, Practice Day

[Steve Lepper]

How bad did your rental car look after the event? I'd love to try this, but would be worried about taking a rental back that had trim parts hanging off.

Part of the driving program I used to teach involved a similar course, but on sandy Arizona soil (as opposed to Glen Helen's riverbed) and our cars were beat (as in fresh paint chips missing along the rockers) after about 20 laps.

[Mako Koiwai]

No issues or new damage to the Neon. I don't recall rocks on the course, @ least not back then. Chx my photo link earlier

[Sebastian Rios]

It is a good idea to get the extra insurance for the rental...I speak from experience. ;)

[Jayson Woodruff]

I've taken quite a few rentals to Glen Helen, haven't had any problems there. In the desert you need to try and keep the inside un-dusted, and early Chula Vista (before the removed the big rock) was a trim ripper. This venue has some rocks, but I haven't really found damage to cars. A coin op power wash is good 'pre-return' proceedure though.

Jay W

How bad did your rental car look after the event? I'd love to try this, but would be worried about taking a rental back that had trim parts hanging off.

Part of the driving program I used to teach involved a similar course, but on sandy Arizona soil (as opposed to Glen Helen's riverbed) and our cars were beat (as in fresh paint chips missing along the rockers) after about 20 laps.

[Dave Haws]

I thought there would be no timing. Didn't the OP say something about bring a stopwatch?

Only on the practice day is there no official timing.

On race day there will be timing. For auto-x guys, we will add 3 seconds per run to even it out a little!!

[Q V]

Would a stock FJ Cruiser be safe/okay to run?

And please fix the motorsportsreg link - it's cut off & doesn't load anything.

[Bill Martin]

Try this one:

http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/show ... hp?t=17389" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Somehow that other link goes bad when you cut & paste it. But it works over on DI.

Not my call, but we normally just worry about lifted vehicles. Were you to autocross it do you think it would feel tippy or unstable? If it could autocross well, it should be fine on dirt. Not talking about if it's fast...just stable. And you'll be even less likely to have problems if you race with an autocross line (which I do) instead of driving wild-ass into a corner and setting up a huge drift.

[Dave Haws]

Only 9 more days to pre-pay and get the $60 price!! It goes up to $80 after Sept. 18th regardless of pre-reg status.

We have only 10 people so far who have pre paid. For those of you who have reg'ed but not paid, be sure to get your money in before the 18th and save!

[Dave Haws]

OK, I fixed the link. Sorry about that.

[Craig Naylor]

"CSCC AX'er Sweep Glen Helen II!"

That must take one HUGE dust pan!

[Craig Naylor]

Would a stock FJ Cruiser be safe/okay to run?

And please fix the motorsportsreg link - it's cut off & doesn't load anything.

I wouldn't, very short wheelbase. That said they do have an amazing tilt ability of 37%, but I don't expect that to be at speed. At a receint off road course for the public to try the vehicle, we had a side tilt full circle outer circumference obstacle at ~ 33%. Let me tell you thats a bit unnerving as the instructor, knowing most participants have never been off the paved surface, and definitely have not driven anything like that before.

In reference to Bill's comment, they are not allowed in Autocross.

[Bill Martin]

Didn't know that. If they're banned in autocross, probably a bad idea for rallycross.

[Larrianni Sotingco]

Are passengers OK for Saturday practice?

[Bill Martin]

Shouldn't be a problem. Bring a Snell-95 or later helmet.