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Karen's already done five track days, but this was the first time in a LONG time that I had driven on a track.

We were going to go up early on Saturday to catch some rides with our fellow Miata Challenge drivers, but after a quick test drive around the block (the car's been on jack stands the last few weeks), I decided that the brakes didn't feel that great. So I put in our new CarboTech XP8 pads in and switched out the brake fluid. But while doing this work I discovered that one of the rear adjuster screws had rusted into place. This screw is for adjusting the inner rear caliber position. Luckily it seemed to be locked into the correct position. (Need to order a new brake from Jeff Wong/ProParts.) But it also seemed like the piston seal was compromised. It was leaking fluid pretty badly. I had to tell Karen that our weekend was probably shot. We were thinking of going up with the Vette, but it's been taken back to pretty much oem settings, and of course we only had mild street tires for it.

When I got it all back together and bleed, there was no leak and the brakes felt OK.

But while doing this brake work I started to feel sick. I was coming down with a full blown cold. I didn't feel I could drive myself so we left the support van and just took the Miata and whatever we could carry in it, ie. we left the new Canon camera and our Toyo R1R rain tires, plus pop-up, etc.

Karen bedded in the brakes on the fwy, whenever we were in the clear. She had also done the sanding of the rotors.

We got up to Buttonwillow Saturday night, just in time to still hit the Willow Ranch House BBQ!

Got up early of course, but then missed the exit to the track in the dark and rain, even though I had zero'ed the odometer and knew the distance from the motel?! I don't believe there is even a Buttonwillow race track sign. By the time we realized our mistake, we had to drive another 25+ miles down the fwy before we could turn around! But we still got to "our" track with plenty of time. Being SCCA members meant we didn't have to pay the $10 each venue fee.

Luckily there was still room for us under the large canopy in front of the Timing/Meeting/Cafe/Shop building, so we had a DRY place for our gear.

After Registration, getting our Transponders and Drivers Meetings, Karen was first out. Over 100 drivers in everything from four Ferrari Challenger cars and full on race cars to stock Mini's ... spread out over five run groups, self classed by experience and ability. After everyone ran once, pre-grid was by lap times. One could also ask to move up or down a class. I placed my self in the basic Intermediate group ... the lowest class allowed that weekend, while Karen was in the Advanced Intermediate group. Open passing on Straights, point-bys in corners. My group was only allowed point bys on the straights.

Cool and wet, intermittent rain. The course never got completely dry. We started with the shocks a bit on the softer side and tire pressures fairly low, 34/32. Our years of Auto Crossing were no doubt a big help. Folks were spinning and sliding off the course everywhere. Karen spun twice, but both feet in and she never went off the track into the sticky mud. I guess I was going too slow to spin. Sometimes Auto Crosser Jeff Ringer was helping out by driving the tow/flat bed truck. He was kept busy for a good part of the day. Occasional everyone had to go to the pits while a car was cleared out. Twice there was a full course Red while cars in particularly dangerous spots were moved.

The various Make Challenges that Speed Venture hosts, including the Corvette Challenge which is held in conjunction with Cal Club (http://animoto.com/play/X1u41JySvzYX0K1tE7k09g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (can't find the latest info?) are run in a Time Trial format. Your fastest time over four 20 minute sessions on the Challenge day is what counts. So you aren't really doing wheel to wheel racing, although I'm not sure what else you would call it when you pass and get passed four times in one session by the same driver. :-) It's hard to back off when you're trying to put in fast laps. And you can't help catching the slower cars.

The CarboTech pads felt great. Terrific bite but good modulation. We never used any brake fluid. We ended up running 38/36 psi. Need to buy a new pyrometer; the old one is fried.

Mind over Body? Sick on Saturday, I felt fine on race day, but today, Monday the cold came back to me with a vengeance?!

When you ask Karen, what her favorite part of these track events is, besides trying to learn everything needed to put in decent laps, she'll tell you it's driving in traffic, having to be aware of where the cars are around you, pressuring the person ahead of you but watching out for when and if they spin in front of you. That happened to both of us, and we easily avoided contact. Luck? If someone comes up behind you in the corners, you're obligated to let them by at the first safe place, according to the rules of your run group.

There were 12 drivers in our Miata Challenge Street Class. There a point system depending on your mods. Street class cars are allowed up to 9 points, which we've used up by having Coil Overs (includes sway bars), open Intake and Exhaust, 140 wear tires (R tires not allowed in the Street class), LSD, and NB Miata compared to a NA. We're only using 7" wheels. In order to use the more optimal 8" or 9" wheels with our 225/45/15 Hankook RS3's, we would have to give up two points somewhere else. We were pretty far down in time compared to the top drivers, but we weren't last either. Still waiting for the final times. There seems to be a bit of a discrepancy, which I want to compare with times taken from my videos.

We missed Jamie Lessie. Her Unlimited Class Rotary Miata still isn't finished. Come on Steve O. :D

To be honest, driving on the track is thrilling but being older and not necessarily wiser, but more experienced it's hard not to THINK about what Can Happen. The rain on Sunday made it more unpredictable, but the speeds were also a bit lower. We hit the rev limited in fourth at least twice at Buttonwillow, about a calculated 94 mph, perhaps a bit more. I think our tires are a bit taller then oem. (I remember entering a slalom at Lone Pine at over 100 with Mark's STI.) Take a look at what happens to this Miata ... at Buttonwillow, at the Kink, right after Riverside and leading to Phil Hill. Doesn't look like he does anything wrong, yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAKVz9GnQI8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the drivers meeting they stressed that that section can bite you (soft dirt will flip you if you go off sideways), but what to do? All you can do is be smooth and not try to do anything to upset the car. You HAVE to be flat out there to be fast. So you Don't think about it while you're actually driving and instead Concentrate on the task at hand.

Karen's attitude is to be fatalistic. If it happens it happens. To her it's worth it. Our racing seat ended up not being as low as we would like it, so we drove without the seat cushion to get lower. Saturday morning I actually bought some new hardened bolts to replace some where I had shaved the heads down for clearance. Instead I took the mount all apart, for probably the fifth time, and removed a 3/16th inch adapter layer, which allowed me to use unmodified bolts while gaining that 3/16th inch drop. Now that we know we share the same seat position, we might removed the sliding rails to drop the seat to the floor.

On the one hand I would encourage all of you to come out to a SCCA Time Trail event, like Pete, KJ and Karen did last year at CA Speedway, but obviously you have to be perfectly honest with yourself that accidents happen, and unlike in AX'ing you might hit something or no matter how careful you are, someone might hit you. Some folks like Tim A. have had bad accidents on the big tracks and find satisfaction AX'ing.

(We want to support the SCCA, but to be honest, they haven't developed an Instructor system for their Time Trials, if I recall correctly. The good thing about NASA track events, is that you HAVE to go through their ranks, which in the beginning, ALWAYS included an Instructor on every lap, with detailed and very honest, in your face if necessary Debriefs after every run group. And this is included in the entry price. Speed Ventures offers Instructors, but you have to pay extra for that. I did pay for an Instructor for my first run group, who was excellent in giving me tips on the lines. Karen had one of the experienced Miata racers ride along with her, for free.)

Having seen my parents deteriorate, I personally don't mind enjoying myself while I can. Like Karen, I think it's worth it. One thing, we know we're never going to be that fast, so it's not like we HAVE to do whatever it takes to post competitive times. Insurances are in place, so my boy's covered. :)

One expense we hadn't factored in, PHOTOGRAPHS! The trackside shooter at Buttonwillow is terrific. We had to buy his CD with all of our photos. Luckily he gave us a Family Car discount and gave us all of our photos (about 70) for $65. Of course we don't mind supporting another photographer ... even if I ended up having to do my own retouching. http://vanhap.com/contact.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our convenient dry covered paddock spot:
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Jeff Ringer, earning Speed Venture bucks by manning the tow truck:
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Wide eye'd and ready to go:
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Charlene, our Miata, in back of the Black Run Group before the first session:

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Slippery! Still Wide Eye'd! Nice light touch on the steering wheel:
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The "hills" are a cool feature at Buttonwillow. Here "Cotton"
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Me Mako:
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Sun breaks through at the end of the day, but will be followed shortly by more rain!
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Awards for the various makes Challenges at the end of the day:
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Hi! from Alignment Guru Darren, of Westend Alignment fame. He bought a Civic shell for $300, and put, I'm sure I heard correctly, $30K into it! It's a fast monster:

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My Instructor managed a 3rd in the S2K Challenge ... against a hoard of Asian's. Seemed like a 1/3rd of the entrants were brothers. :D
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A short video clip of me. I was trying some laps where I stayed in a higher gear for some sections. A bigger then usual slide a the end. :D

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A video clip with a bit more aggressive driving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BPMr-h7pw
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btw. ... my "new" last name? Since we have to have a last name in our profile, I just substituted "to" since my middle name is actually Makoto :?
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For comparison, a "real" race lap by one of my seasoned competitors, in his 100 hp NA Miata. 8-)

... a bit over driven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0qqCXGRmII
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Ryan Buetzer in the 949 Racing Miata around Buttonwillow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3j5-2lnJIg
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Thanks for posting Mako!

I always wonderd what a track day was like? I may join you guys someday....
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How do you guys figure out where to go? There aren't nearly enough cones!
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John Stimson wrote:How do you guys figure out where to go? There aren't nearly enough cones!
the dirt is kinda like cones, except not only does it take seconds off your time, your car gets really dirty, and sometimes stuck.

causes the same 'OOO, AHHH' and finger pointing from the pit lane though :lol:
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Nice report, Mako! I'm glad you and Karen had a great time.

I've done the NASA HPDE events, which are grouped according to driver experience level. To me, the fun factor is 90 percent of wheel-to-wheel racing, but the chance of car-to-car contact is greatly reduced. After each session, there's a mandatory "download" where you can air your complaints about other drivers' cluenessness/ineptitude. The instructors here will thoroughly chastise anyone who does anything dangerous. It's a good system.

Yes, Buttonwillow is most treacherous when it's muddy, as cars are more prone to dig in and flip rather than slide on the dirt. Aren't Cotton Corners and Phil Hill fun??

Here's my 944 at Buttonwillow, back in the day:

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We were able to find our way around by driving slowly ... actually surprisingly easy. If you allowed passing in Auto Crossing, Newbies could take their time finding their way around! :lol:
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Aren't Cotton Corners and Phil Hill fun??
Absolutely! Just have to be careful that you don't end up side by side on Phil Hill. We were at an event ... full on race ... where a Sentra got forced off of the top of Phil Hill and ended up summersaulting end over end. Luckily it had a full on roll cage and the driver was fine.

We might end up doing two more Buttonwillow events back to back ... instead of taking the trek up to Infineon for Round 2 of the Miata Challenge. We honestly feel that we wouldn't be doing justice to all of those fast sections at Infineon.

Love the fact that Buttonwillow is OUR CalClub owned venue. :thumbup: http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/
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Mako to wrote:
Aren't Cotton Corners and Phil Hill fun??
Absolutely! Just have to be careful that you don't end up side by side on Phil Hill. We were at an event ... full on race ... where a Sentra got forced off of the top of Phil Hill and ended up summersaulting end over end. Luckily it had a full on roll cage and the driver was fine.

We might end up doing two more Buttonwillow events back to back ... instead of taking the trek up to Infineon for Round 2 of the Miata Challenge. We honestly feel that we wouldn't be doing justice to all of those fast sections at Infineon.

Love the fact that Buttonwillow is OUR CalClub owned venue. :thumbup: http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/
It's by far my favorite track. Big Willow is fun, but it destroys your outside front tire.
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Mako:

come out next Saturday at Street of Willow. Sunday is Redline/SV Time Attack. so Saturday should be good.
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Mako to wrote: (We want to support the SCCA, but to be honest, they haven't developed an Instructor system for their Time Trials, if I recall correctly. The good thing about NASA track events, is that you HAVE to go through their ranks, which in the beginning, ALWAYS included an Instructor on every lap, with detailed and very honest, in your face if necessary Debriefs after every run group. And this is included in the entry price. Speed Ventures offers Instructors, but you have to pay extra for that. I did pay for an Instructor for my first run group, who was excellent in giving me tips on the lines. Karen had one of the experienced Miata racers ride along with her, for free.)
Actually, Mako doesn't recall from last year -- SCCA Time Trials DOES offer instruction. All you have to do is ask for one & they will stay with you throughout your sessions as long as you want/need. It is just not as structured as NASA.
Mako, recall this photo with my instructor last year?
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I'd be interested to know how folks figure the actual cost of a track day. Seems to me, one has to figure in, beside the obvious entry fee, things such as fluid changes (oil, trans, dif), tire wear (finite amount of laps), pad and rotor wear, fuel to travel, hotels, meals, etc. I'm sure there's a host of things I'm not considering here, but my point is what is the REAL cost of a day at a track like Streets of Willow?
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Oh it's darren. Got my alignment from him lol
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Hi guys ,
glad to have you come out with us .
excellent write up also .
i was actually with Karen when she spun in the first session. (im in the pic ,we are both wide eyed). Im glad she knows what she's doing . The track that day was really unpredictable . Every session, even every lap seemed to have a different surface, from wet to dry to muddy . A fun day , but a little hard to learn the track with those conditions. I know once you two get familiar with the tracks , you will pick up speed pretty quick.
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my point is what is the REAL cost of a day at a track like Streets of Willow?
Considering we spent something like $4K on tires for the Vette last year and this year we're running relatively cheap street tires with the Miata we should do OK. There were a number of times we overnighted going to even our local Auto Crosses. Some of our track days will be either one day affairs, or Karen running one day and myself the 2nd day.

One thing that you have to keep in mind is seat time. Typically one gets 80 to 100 minutes of track time at these track days. At a track like Buttonwillow, one is doing 15 to 19 major inputs per lap (faster cars "create" more corners). As you can see from the 3rd video posted above, with experience one can over drive on a track lap just like on a AX lap! :lol: You just have to except that you could actually roll your car.

One of our Miata Challenge drivers had to use his AAA towing service ... in fact it took two of his 100 mile tows. But it was the first time in 7 years that he wasn't able to drive home from the track. Blown rear dif.

A Vette would be more expensive to track. It's my understanding that a set of Vette front rotors might only last a couple of days. Fortunately Vette Front rotors are cheap and easy to change out. Terry Free and Steve A. can confirm that even 710's last surprisingly long on a track, since one is typically running smoothly and isn't confronting tire grinder corners or over throttling out of corners. But there are reasons we aren't running our Z06. Tires and it simply gets up to serious speeds too quickly.

You always have to be on the look out for little track incidents like thi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqDkB3y4bjU

He didn't move far enough back to his right before going into Corner 1. There was that big puddle, but still. Fortunately he saw me and braked as he started to roll back, so that I didn't have to go off track to go around him.

If the two of use would have done all of the sessions last weekend, we would have gone through an entire tank of gas. They do have a credit card gas pump at the track with 91, 100 and 110 fuel. 91 octane was something like $4.10/gallon.
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To get the car ready for tracking we did buy a racing seat and harness. New brake pads ... the outstanding CarboTech XP8's. The fellows without ABS, and the Spec Miata racers use 10's in front and 8's in back. I'm replacing the rear brakes. They had rusted up so badly that one of the adjuster screws was frozen. I have new front rotors standing by. (Thanks Jeff Wong and ProParts). We already had the roll bar in.
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