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What makes people think that adding "140" to the stock rules would change anything?John Stimson wrote: take a serious look at the idea of changing stock to 140 treadwear tires.
If we could pull together enough to enter as a block and let the SCCA know what was happening, I'd be in. I have a pass from the wife to go to nationals, but no ride. I'd be willing to drive out in my car and participate, but I'd want to have enough people doing it with us to make a statement.John Stimson wrote:Well, street tire folks...do you think if you get all of your compatriots to come to nationals and run street tires in the stock classes, that could could get enough people there to outnumber the people on DOT-Rs? That may be what has to happen in order to have the SAC and the SEB really take a serious look at the idea of changing stock to 140 treadwear tires.
:gpower:Kurt Ra wrote:If we could pull together enough to enter as a block and let the SCCA know what was happening, I'd be in. I have a pass from the wife to go to nationals, but no ride. I'd be willing to drive out in my car and participate, but I'd want to have enough people doing it with us to make a statement.John Stimson wrote:Well, street tire folks...do you think if you get all of your compatriots to come to nationals and run street tires in the stock classes, that could could get enough people there to outnumber the people on DOT-Rs? That may be what has to happen in order to have the SAC and the SEB really take a serious look at the idea of changing stock to 140 treadwear tires.
*clears throat*Marshall Grice wrote:Is there a reason that the rules couldn't specify the minimum treadwear as a function of class?
Christine Berry wrote:Yes, because the new people to the sport take one look at our classing structure and understand it immediatly, so it's ok to add that extra complication }:)Jeff Stuart wrote:Any class that has a majority saying street, switches to street.
I drive a CS car and want to be on street tires, but I guess I'm just weird.Marshall Grice wrote: Like GS, HS on 140 (or whatever) and all others on r-comps? I think really those are the only people looking for street tires in stock.
I've never driven a Corvette on an autocross course, but based on my experience driving a 300HP G35, it takes more car-control skills to deal with a high powered car on street tires than it does on Krazy Glue tires. As long as everyone has to deal with the same impediment, it separates who can master it from who needs the crutch. Can you say throttle control?John Stimson wrote:I dunno, I like the idea and I'm in an S2000. I don't seem to be the only one either. San Diego seems to have a fair number of serious competitors in SK1. And before you say it's just an S2000 thing, Jeff Cashmore has been running his B Stock Corvette on street tires.
I'd add other non-huge HP cars like BS (possibly), CS, DS, ES to that as well. Basically, if you don't have an engine that breathes fire.Marshall Grice wrote:Is there a reason that the rules couldn't specify the minimum treadwear as a function of class? Like GS, HS on 140 (or whatever) and all others on r-comps? I think really those are the only people looking for street tires in stock.
I'm in an A stock C5 Corvette. I like the idea.by John Stimson on 06 Jul 2011 21:21
I dunno, I like the idea and I'm in an S2000. I don't seem to be the only one either. San Diego seems to have a fair number of serious competitors in SK1. And before you say it's just an S2000 thing, Jeff Cashmore has been running his B Stock Corvette on street tires.
You're right. They're just harder to drive, since you have to develop excellent throttle control. I enjoyed it and it taught me a lot, but a lot of people don't, apparently.John Stimson wrote:I'm skeptical of the "high HP cars hate street tires".
So did Steve Abbott in a borrowed C5 Z06 on Kumhos this year...well, at least on day 1.John Stimson wrote:I'm skeptical of the "high HP cars hate street tires". Chris Cox did pretty damned well in his GT3 on Hankooks at last year's divisional.
