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Max is funny, but looks aren't everything. I think I need to drive your car too. I'll even offer to let you drive mine (a not-a-real-Mini-BMW-version).Steve Alexander wrote:Max, sounds like a good enough reason to me. I remember you ran some respectable times Sunday and I enjoyed your announcing/humor.
Steve, it's a private forum, and you need to be approved for access.Steve Alexander wrote:Don, I tried for 2 hours to get on that forum, so I could see posts.....most complicated process ever. I was not able to get past the title page, with the picture of a Jeep autocross car. I think I now have a Yahoo Email account, and probably managed to get on a Yahoo spam list too.
Actually, it's SK2 for a 2011 WRX.Steve Towers wrote: SK1 is the street tire class for your car, so yes, it's an advisable option. In stock you're up against race tires - not much chance of being competitive.
Just the class you register in.Ryan Young wrote:Thanks Leonard, that was the answer I was looking for! Does this affect how I register on motorsportreg?
His car is in D-Stock (DS). If he wants to drive on street tires with the SK multiplier, then he runs D-Stock, Street tire. (DSK) That's two classes, not five as you seem to think. I put the others in there to make the post more relevant to anyone else who runs across that post.Steve Alexander wrote:Wow, I read that about 5 times and I'm still confused; that is the most complicated clasification method I have ever seen for anything. Looks like he could put at least 5 different class designations on his car. Why isn't there just a single class to fit each car?
Steve, your car is definitely a special case. However, no matter what tires you choose to run on (even full racing slicks), it is legal for DM.Steve Alexander wrote:Wow, I read that about 5 times and I'm still confused; that is the most complicated clasification method I have ever seen for anything. Looks like he could put at least 5 different class designations on his car. Why isn't there just a single class to fit each car? The handicaping seems like the old drag strip bracket racing Idea, where the car capability is negated and only driver reaction times and consistency matters. I used to do that kind of racing, but got bored with it because there is no incentive to improve the car. A guy could spend a fortune on building a fast car and still get beat by a slow one. What's the point?
In our "Mark" Autocross events, we classify on a point system; the more mods and type of mods to the car, the more points(higher class) you must compete in... Pretty simple and works really well . For cross-mark classification, you could use weight to HP ratio, as well.....I know, who's going to verify the acurate weight and power of every car; but at least that way, it would encourage drivers to improve vehicle handeling, getting the most of their car within a given power to weight ratio, there by keeping classification simple and fair. Certainly, some kinds of cars would of course tend to be easier to make competitive than others, but that's as it should be. I know changing the classification rules to something simple just isn't going to happen, so I guess I will need something like a Comunity college night course, to begin to understand the current system. I guess that's why there needs to be this thread, so the experts can tell you where you belong......but funny how even the experts don't agree on what class you should run in; So, what are you left with, "expert's consensus"? So far, with no tread wear rating showing, I can't even tell how to classify any of my 5 different sets of street tires, let alone my car.
That car will have some very stiff competition, but, KJ will enjoy it. I think it, mid-bike engine, takes you right to the head of all classes.Steve Alexander wrote:Thanks. Although I don't understand the rules or the way you make decisions on car classes, I think I understand the reasoning a bit better. The SD guys put me in SUX; No one here has mentioned that class yet? There is still the problem of no Markings on 10" tires that show tread wear rating, so don't know how you would tell what it is. I will probably go with slicks if I can find any, just to make the car as fast as I can on 10s, which is consistant with the rest of the build anyway. Unfortunately, with the big engine(108 pounds heavier than stock), the already poor weight distribution of the Mini only gets worse, now at 67/33, and nothing much can be done about that, that I haven't already done. I can get another 150 pounds out of the car, but all from the rear, so no point in doing that. We have started on a new Mini project car that makes more sense; a mid engine, supercharged Hayabusa bike engined car to reduce weight and improve distribution and traction, with chopped roof and sectioned body to reduce drag. We will also have a good selection of tires available with the larger 13" wheel diameter planned.
That is a local San Diego class, similar to, IIRC, our CSM.Steve Alexander wrote: The SD guys put me in SUX; No one here has mentioned that class yet?
Sounds fun!Steve Alexander wrote:We have started on a new Mini project car that makes more sense; a mid engine, supercharged Hayabusa bike engined car to reduce weight and improve distribution and traction, with chopped roof and sectioned body to reduce drag. We will also have a good selection of tires available with the larger 13" wheel diameter planned.
I have re-written and expanded the sticky on this. Let me know what else is unclear so I can make changes.Steve Alexander wrote:Wow, I read that about 5 times and I'm still confused
Our region is organized with a series of member clubs - CASOC, GRA, SCNAX, TCC, No$ and PSCC, as you can see here: http://www.solo2.com/clubs.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. The reason for that structure is to share the effort of hosting events. It takes considerable effort to organize events our size, and if that fell on a single small group of people, they would rapidly burn out.Steve Alexander wrote:I see that you are supposed to join a club....I am already in a car club, Mini Owners Of America Los Angeles,(MOALA); does that count? It is not a racing club;I am the only one of about 75 members that is interested in driving fast, even though there are about 5 Honda powered Minis, like mine, in the club.
That's the curse of being successful! The SCCA offers a number of categories and classes within each category, and on top of that they encourage local regions to create local classes to accommodate demand for cars that don't have a National class. Lately there's been a lot of demand for Street Touring (ST) classes, with interest in Stock falling off at the National level. Prepared and Modified both are seeing resurgence too, after having undergone some decreased participation. We're happy to answer your questions here to ease the burden for you.I'm sure the average guy who has been in Solo for awhile can understand the classification reasonably well, My problem is it is all new to me, like a foreign language with initials for everything, and unfamiliar words (like the latest: Sticky).
I've never heard of this problem before. I do know that if you start a response and other posts have been processed, there's an update on your screen to display those and ask if you want to update your response before it posts, but I can't imagine that locking up a computer. If you have anyone who can take a look at it for you, they may find a problem in your browser configuration or security settings. Unfortunately this is one of those problems that could easily be unique to your computer.I am an Engineer, (an old one) I don't keep up with current technology very well; cell phones, computers, etc. never learned to type either;(hunt and peck with one finger) which brings up a problem I am having posting on this forum. It seems that if it takes longer than about 15 minutes to write a post, by the time I am finished an have proof readit, etc, then hit the submit button, the post will not process for as long as twenty minutes or more, in the mean time, the window just locks up. if I walk away while I am waiting, my computer shuts down after awhile. I have lost more than a few long and laborious posts in nthe process. This is the only forum I have been on that does that, so I am having to remember to copy my post, before submitting it, just incase I loose it, so I don't have to spend another half hour to an hour re writing it from memory. If it is a short post that takes me less than 10 minutes or so to write, It usually submits in a reasonable length of time.
See also: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=6350" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Mike Simanyi wrote:Our region is organized with a series of member clubs - CASOC, GRA, SCNAX, TCC, No$ and PSCC, as you can see here: http://www.solo2.com/clubs.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. The reason for that structure is to share the effort of hosting events. It takes considerable effort to organize events our size, and if that fell on a single small group of people, they would rapidly burn out.Steve Alexander wrote:I see that you are supposed to join a club....I am already in a car club, Mini Owners Of America Los Angeles,(MOALA); does that count? It is not a racing club;I am the only one of about 75 members that is interested in driving fast, even though there are about 5 Honda powered Minis, like mine, in the club.
So clubs share some of the load, and when they don't host the Executive Board (E-board) hosts, with members drawn from each club.
You can see that the club hierarchy is essential to our operation, so club membership is equally essential. If you sign up for a points card, the first year you join us you're allowed to not select a club. The intent is that you will show up and run with us, meet people, build friendships and make an educated decision about which club to join. If you decide earlier than the end of the year, feel free to request joining a specific club. I'm sure our membership chair, Kurt Rahn, will accommodate you.