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'09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:11 pm
by Mike Simanyi
'09 Rulebooks are available for pre-booking through the SCCA website at the link. $20 + shipping, to be sent in January.

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Mike

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:02 pm
by Bob Pl
Any chance we could buy a bunch (say 50 or 100) to bulk ship & save each of us paying individual shipping? I know they have them at the tour, but it would be nice to get it b4 that.

Just a thought. We are in a recession, so every penny counts.


:)

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:05 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
When we've done it in the past its been pretty ugly.
Failed to get in time for SDTour.
Ended up with a whole huge box unsold.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:38 pm
by Mike Simanyi
Steve is correct. In fact, Papa Cal Club only gave us the invoice to pay a couple months ago for the '07 rulebooks we bought at the beginning of the year.

I don't think we need to repeat that mistake.

Mike

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:51 pm
by Glenn Duensing
Since I'm the DSS, I can get the same discount as Papa CalClub. 5 books minimum. I can check with SCCA to see when they would be shipping them.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:31 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Hmmm... I actually trust Glenn on stuff like that.... Painful to admit. :lol:

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:25 pm
by Mike Simanyi
Again, it's the administrative hassle and accounting that are problematic. I'll be sure to include this on the Agenda for the meeting.

Mike

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:27 am
by Bob Pl
Mike Simanyi wrote:Again, it's the administrative hassle and accounting that are problematic. I'll be sure to include this on the Agenda for the meeting.

Mike
Well if you dudes figure out a way to get some in bulk (b4 the tour) I would buy one. But don't make a big deal out of it. I understand there is some "hassle" involved in doing it. I had thought it would not be that complicated.

:)

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:06 am
by Max Hayter
Easiest thing to do is purchase one at the SD Tour or ET Pro - you don't have to pay shipping, since the SCCA have them there.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:10 am
by Aaron Goldsmith
Max Hayter wrote:Easiest thing to do is purchase one at the SD Tour or ET Pro - you don't have to pay shipping, since the SCCA have them there.
that's what I (and I'm sure most folks) do.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:19 am
by George Schilling
Bob Plante wrote:
Mike Simanyi wrote:Again, it's the administrative hassle and accounting that are problematic. I'll be sure to include this on the Agenda for the meeting.

Mike
Well if you dudes figure out a way to get some in bulk (b4 the tour) I would buy one. But don't make a big deal out of it. I understand there is some "hassle" involved in doing it. I had thought it would not be that complicated.

:)
Bob, we compete in stock class where there's may be three rules. What do you need a book for? :lol:

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:43 am
by Kurt Rahn
Do the printed rulebooks have different/more info than the PDF doc they post on their Web site?

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:45 am
by Steve Ekstrand
no



The ONLY real reason for needing a printed rule book is to run National events are get annual tech.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:48 am
by George Schilling
Not that I know of. You're supposed to have a rule book in your possession for national type events Kurt, I suppose I case there is a rules dispute at the event. I've owned three rule books looked at the rules once.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:59 am
by Jayson Woodruff
It's nice to have the printed and bound rulebook in your glove box for referance.

If I remember I can take orders before I go to the SCCA convention in Feb. That's probably where I'll get mine.

Jay W

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:08 am
by Jason Flores
Steve Ekstrand wrote: The ONLY real reason for needing a printed rule book is to run National events are get annual tech.

Is there still an opportunity to get a LOCAL annual tech?...i think that could save lots of teams/drivers some prep time.... :geek:

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:09 am
by Kurt Rahn
Got it. I've actually used the PDF I downloaded quite a bit, but I guess I don't need the printed version until I go to nats.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:11 am
by Aaron Goldsmith
Kurt Rahn wrote:Got it. I've actually used the PDF I downloaded quite a bit, but I guess I don't need the printed version until I go to nats.
You need one when you register for any national event.. theoretically... though I didn't bring mine to any of the fly away events this year.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:07 pm
by Adrian Covert
Is having online (iphone or laptop) access to the SCCA .pdf version acceptable at the National events, and what about if I print that version out? :?:
Stock class means there are very few allowed modifications.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:09 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
Adrian Covert wrote:Is having online (iphone or laptop) access to the SCCA .pdf version acceptable at the National events, and what about if I print that version out? :?:
Stock class means there are very few allowed modifications.

NO!!!

They want to sell books.

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:11 pm
by Mike Simanyi
George Schilling wrote:Bob, we compete in stock class where there's may be three rules. What do you need a book for? :lol:
Annual Tech.

Only for experienced competitors (and Points Card holders, right?)

Mike

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:48 pm
by Bob Pl
Steve Ekstrand wrote:no



The ONLY real reason for needing a printed rule book is to run National events are get annual tech.

George, what he said.

:)

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:04 pm
by Jayson Woodruff
Adrian Covert wrote:Is having online (iphone or laptop) access to the SCCA .pdf version acceptable at the National events, and what about if I print that version out? :?:
Stock class means there are very few allowed modifications.
At one time they did. I haven't seen anyone try or get away with it in the last couple years. I think it's just way easier to borrow one than to try and explain you iPhone to a Topkean.

Jay W

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:29 pm
by Adrian Covert
Jayson Woodruff wrote:
Adrian Covert wrote:Is having online (iphone or laptop) access to the SCCA .pdf version acceptable at the National events, and what about if I print that version out? :?:
Stock class means there are very few allowed modifications.
At one time they did. I haven't seen anyone try or get away with it in the last couple years. I think it's just way easier to borrow one than to try and explain you iPhone to a Topkean.

Jay W

Probably would go about as well as when I explained to my parents how the DVD player remote control works! Haha

Re: '09 Rulebooks

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:01 pm
by Michael Palero
Jayson Woodruff wrote:
Adrian Covert wrote:Is having online (iphone or laptop) access to the SCCA .pdf version acceptable at the National events, and what about if I print that version out? :?:
Stock class means there are very few allowed modifications.
At one time they did. I haven't seen anyone try or get away with it in the last couple years. I think it's just way easier to borrow one than to try and explain you iPhone to a Topkean.

Jay W
Watch me try!!