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this is very ugly . look at that video link

young wealthy guy with his whole life in front of him racing a supercar on the street. need to save it for the track or autox
the guy arrested is screwed

Very sad people choose to drive at speeds necessary to cause that much damage on public roads, and the aftermath it brings. Its rather freaky watching the hazards blinking, especially the bulb on the ground in the rubble where the drivers door would be, but the tail lights are not lit. Were they running with their lights off , and just hazards on?

Craig Naylor wrote: but the tail lights are not lit. Were they running with their lights off , and just hazards on?

you mean the tail lights that are 40 feet from the battery?

Crazy. Not much damage to the rest of the car...all the energy of the impact must have been concentrated on the driver's door. He musta been seriously f'd up.

Kurt Rahn wrote:Crazy. Not much damage to the rest of the car...all the energy of the impact must have been concentrated on the driver's door. He musta been seriously f'd up.

Sad ending to what probably started out to be a nice day. The drivers were stupid.

I have made it a habit to leave loved ones with a hug and an "I love you." We never know when the end will come.

George Schilling wrote:

Kurt Rahn wrote:
I have made it a habit to leave loved ones with a hug and an "I love you." We never know when the end will come.

+1 for that. But, George, no hugs, OK?

I don't mind the hug George, but don't slap the shoulder.

Horrible... The gf and I saw it last night on the news.

Young wealthy guy + very little performance driving experience (?), (or common sense for that matter) + Extremely powerful sports car with a crash safety rating comparable to an empty Coke can = Very bad things.

I hope at least the girlfriend pulls though.

this came up on the mazda forum i'm on.

one of the girl's coworker was the guy's ex-gf (as of a month ago), and was pretty tore up over it.

anyone else see the ABC version of it? http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=6703675" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Police have not determined how fast the Ferrari was traveling, but the car is capable of speeds over 200 miles per hour.

where do they find their car facts? modena doing over 200? 100mph tailwind down a 20% grade?

200? Now that is funny.....

Steve Ekstrand wrote:200? Now that is funny.....

Only street legal car that can reach that speed is a Bugatti Veyron.

Bentley Continental GT Speed 202
Chevy Corvette ZR1 205
Dodge Viper SRT10 202
Ferrari 599 GTB 205
Lambo Murcielago LP640 211
Those are just the five in the article I just read a few minutes ago in Road and Track

Veyron can hit 253

Was confused when I saw the episode Top Gear with Bugatti. Apparently it was the only one that broke 250, not 200. Thanks Kurt.

The Modena does 186 which I still think is optimistic.

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Was confused when I saw the episode Top Gear with Bugatti. Apparently it was the only one that broke 250, not 200. Thanks Kurt.

Yeah, that thing is badass. Apparently the crazy thing is how stable it is at high speed.

Kurt Rahn wrote:

Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Was confused when I saw the episode Top Gear with Bugatti. Apparently it was the only one that broke 250, not 200. Thanks Kurt.

Yeah, that thing is badass. Apparently the crazy thing is how stable it is at high speed.

But it takes a little more time to get to 250, once it reaches 215-220. At that point wind becomes even harder to push through hence the necessary EXTRA power it needs to go 30mph faster.

Steve Ekstrand wrote:The Modena does 186 which I still think is optimistic.

Agreed. Some of these numbers are a bit suspect and perhaps "theoretical", or very little wind or assuming there's a bit of downhill slope.

Jeff Shyu wrote:this came up on the mazda forum i'm on.

one of the girl's coworker was the guy's ex-gf (as of a month ago), and was pretty tore up over it.

anyone else see the ABC version of it? http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=6703675" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Police have not determined how fast the Ferrari was traveling, but the car is capable of speeds over 200 miles per hour.

where do they find their car facts? modena doing over 200? 100mph tailwind down a 20% grade?

Sure it's a Modena? CF brakes says it's a 430, maybe Scuderia. TV people have a hard time with anything beyond the color of the car, with a few exceptions. There's a guy at ABC who knows his stuff.

The most annoying thing to me was the KTLA reporter saying about the female passenger that "miraculously she's in stable condition." Dead people are in stable condition. It's meaningless. She could be stable, but in a coma. That wouldn't qualify as miracle.

I want to know what kind of mods the 1977 Targa had....

Jeff Ringer wrote:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ash-1.html


this is very ugly . look at that video link

young wealthy guy with his whole life in front of him racing a supercar on the street. need to save it for the track or autox
the guy arrested is screwed

There is no evidence he was street racing. Poor guy was minding his own business when a drunk driver in a German-made vehicle side-swiped him.

Kurt Rahn wrote:Bentley Continental GT Speed 202
Chevy Corvette ZR1 205
Dodge Viper SRT10 202
Ferrari 599 GTB 205
Lambo Murcielago LP640 211
Those are just the five in the article I just read a few minutes ago in Road and Track

Veyron can hit 253

BMW M6 205

Will Chang wrote:

Jeff Ringer wrote:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ash-1.html


this is very ugly . look at that video link

young wealthy guy with his whole life in front of him racing a supercar on the street. need to save it for the track or autox
the guy arrested is screwed

There is no evidence he was street racing. Poor guy was minding his own business when a drunk driver in a German-made vehicle side-swiped him.

That may have been the case, but it's still an ongoing investigation. Going the posted speed limit isn't going to split a Ferrari in half, in cases like these speed is always a factor.

Will Chang wrote:

Jeff Ringer wrote:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ash-1.html


this is very ugly . look at that video link

young wealthy guy with his whole life in front of him racing a supercar on the street. need to save it for the track or autox
the guy arrested is screwed

There is no evidence he was street racing. Poor guy was minding his own business when a drunk driver in a German-made vehicle side-swiped him.

Will, at 50mph the Ferrari would not have split like that. 90-100 mph is more likely given that the elasticity of the frame material failed completely. The Ferrari's ECU might have an actual speed recorded.

Bob Beamesderfer wrote:

Will Chang wrote:

Jeff Ringer wrote:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... ash-1.html
this is very ugly . look at that video link
young wealthy guy with his whole life in front of him racing a supercar on the street. need to save it for the track or autox
the guy arrested is screwed

There is no evidence he was street racing. Poor guy was minding his own business when a drunk driver in a German-made vehicle side-swiped him.

Will, at 50mph the Ferrari would not have split like that. 90-100 mph is more likely given that the elasticity of the frame material failed completely. The Ferrari's ECU might have an actual speed recorded.

Apparently there was a cop watching the whole thing starting with when the cars begun to spin. There'll be plenty of evidence, whatever the outcome.

That's true. Approximate speed can be calculated with the weight of the car and the damage done, but they'll probably just guess.