2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!
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2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!
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GS and HS look interesting... nevermind, I like going fast.
GS and HS look interesting... nevermind, I like going fast.
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Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!
hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.
How much did that cost you Bill?
How much did that cost you Bill?

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Seems like EM is still too soft.
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Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
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To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index.

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ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!Marshall Grice wrote:To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index.
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It seems right to meMax Hayter wrote:ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!Marshall Grice wrote:To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index.

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I know, if he makes STU softer than ST then all the civics would be forced to go run in STU for the softer index. See the logic? :barf:Max Hayter wrote:
ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!
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Maybe he doesnt like you Max.Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
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It must be - I think Schenker has been bribing him and saying bad things about me.Tom Berry wrote:Maybe he doesnt like you Max.Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
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Hey.... my index got harder. No fair! I dont think I will run in Pax next year. Maybe BSP.Marshall Grice wrote:hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.
How much did that cost you Bill?

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you might want to talk to Theresa about that...Tom Berry wrote:Hey.... my index got harder. No fair! I dont think I will run in Pax next year. Maybe BSP.Marshall Grice wrote:hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.
How much did that cost you Bill?
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Jeff: Dude, we need to build that FSP car!
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So in what region are the STS cars beating up the ST cars... since it's obviously not here, SD, or Nationals.
Why does GS not change... the Mini's are gone.... no one has run anything else (competitively) in years.
Why does GS not change... the Mini's are gone.... no one has run anything else (competitively) in years.
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STS is a no brainer. Take the car to beat in ST, take off weight and length. If you can't go a tiny bit faster, you're doing it wrong.
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Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.
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Yeah, but the Mini only gave up .1 on the move from GS to DS. HS got relatively easier to CS by .1. I'm more worried about the early Boxsters along with the RX-8 being moved to CS as I believe that makes KJ and Tom Tanquary my direct competitors locally. Down in San Diego, Doug is going to benefit a LOT by moving the SVT from GS to HS in SK2 as he gets 1.9 back.Kurt Rahn wrote:Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.
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The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........and out of all the cars in class, it sure was the best looking. Seems like it would be a wonderful daily driver.Kurt Rahn wrote:Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.

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almost, it was one out of the trophies, only 1 second behind the winner.... sounds like a pax killer to me. mid year people are going to be screaming about the overdog Genesis and the soft pax...George Schilling wrote:
The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........
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I do like the idea that my Celica may be competitive again.
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Looks like you've got two choices on where to run now.Ernest Limbo wrote:I do like the idea that my Celica may be competitive again.
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Just checked and my local dealer has four 2.0T Tracks with a manual tranny. Going to visit them on Mon., just to see what they're like.Keith Brown wrote:almost, it was one out of the trophies, only 1 second behind the winner.... sounds like a pax killer to me. mid year people are going to be screaming about the overdog Genesis and the soft pax...George Schilling wrote:
The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........
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That would seam logical.... but their not doing it. So what gives... are we saying the so far CRX drivers just aren't up to it? Or could the shorter wheel base actually be a detriment to the handling?Steve Ekstrand wrote:STS is a no brainer. Take the car to beat in ST, take off weight and length. If you can't go a tiny bit faster, you're doing it wrong.
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CRX drivers aren't doing it. The competition is no where near as deep. Sorry, Mr. King.
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you mean transferring weight off the drive wheels makes a car slower?Craig Naylor wrote:Or could the shorter wheel base actually be a detriment to the handling?
