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2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:36 am
by Keith Brown
http://scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2010.html

GS and HS look interesting... nevermind, I like going fast.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:58 am
by Marshall Grice
hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.

How much did that cost you Bill? :lol:

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:29 am
by Jeff Wong
Seems like EM is still too soft.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:36 am
by Max Hayter
Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:40 am
by Marshall Grice
Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.

I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index. :lol:

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:45 am
by Max Hayter
Marshall Grice wrote:
Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.

I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index. :lol:
ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:04 am
by Jeff Wong
Max Hayter wrote:
Marshall Grice wrote:
Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
To keep the ST civics from beating up on the STU guys.

I mean who would want to run in that class with such a hard index. :lol:
ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!
It seems right to me :lol: You just let all those forum people get in your head from the Spec Civic Thread.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:34 am
by Marshall Grice
Max Hayter wrote:
ST was faster than STU at Nats. Rick got the PAX the wrong way round!
I know, if he makes STU softer than ST then all the civics would be forced to go run in STU for the softer index. See the logic? :barf:

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:34 pm
by Tom Berry
Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
Maybe he doesnt like you Max.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:39 pm
by Max Hayter
Tom Berry wrote:
Max Hayter wrote:Why on earth would STU get that kind of jump?
Maybe he doesnt like you Max.
It must be - I think Schenker has been bribing him and saying bad things about me.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:42 pm
by Tom Berry
Marshall Grice wrote:hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.

How much did that cost you Bill? :lol:
Hey.... my index got harder. No fair! I dont think I will run in Pax next year. Maybe BSP. :lol:

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:43 pm
by Marshall Grice
Tom Berry wrote:
Marshall Grice wrote:hey looks like Bill can run in PAX again.

How much did that cost you Bill? :lol:
Hey.... my index got harder. No fair! I dont think I will run in Pax next year. Maybe BSP. :lol:
you might want to talk to Theresa about that...

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:47 pm
by Sebastian Rios
Jeff: Dude, we need to build that FSP car!

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:54 pm
by Craig Naylor
So in what region are the STS cars beating up the ST cars... since it's obviously not here, SD, or Nationals.

Why does GS not change... the Mini's are gone.... no one has run anything else (competitively) in years.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:14 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
STS is a no brainer. Take the car to beat in ST, take off weight and length. If you can't go a tiny bit faster, you're doing it wrong.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:16 pm
by Kurt Rahn
Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:36 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Kurt Rahn wrote:Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.
Yeah, but the Mini only gave up .1 on the move from GS to DS. HS got relatively easier to CS by .1. I'm more worried about the early Boxsters along with the RX-8 being moved to CS as I believe that makes KJ and Tom Tanquary my direct competitors locally. Down in San Diego, Doug is going to benefit a LOT by moving the SVT from GS to HS in SK2 as he gets 1.9 back.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:53 pm
by George Schilling
Kurt Rahn wrote:Wow, DS takes it in the pants! Gives back .2 to CS on a 60 sec. course, and .3 to HS. You're welcome Leonard and Ernest! I guess it's still not too late to get that GS Hyundai Genesis coupe.
The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........and out of all the cars in class, it sure was the best looking. Seems like it would be a wonderful daily driver. :thumbup:

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:29 pm
by Keith Brown
George Schilling wrote:
The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........
almost, it was one out of the trophies, only 1 second behind the winner.... sounds like a pax killer to me. mid year people are going to be screaming about the overdog Genesis and the soft pax...

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:59 pm
by Ernest Limbo
I do like the idea that my Celica may be competitive again.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:09 pm
by Leonard Cachola
Ernest Limbo wrote:I do like the idea that my Celica may be competitive again.
Looks like you've got two choices on where to run now.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:38 pm
by Kurt Rahn
Keith Brown wrote:
George Schilling wrote:
The one Genesis that went to Nats this year trophied...........
almost, it was one out of the trophies, only 1 second behind the winner.... sounds like a pax killer to me. mid year people are going to be screaming about the overdog Genesis and the soft pax...
Just checked and my local dealer has four 2.0T Tracks with a manual tranny. Going to visit them on Mon., just to see what they're like.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:04 pm
by Craig Naylor
Steve Ekstrand wrote:STS is a no brainer. Take the car to beat in ST, take off weight and length. If you can't go a tiny bit faster, you're doing it wrong.
That would seam logical.... but their not doing it. So what gives... are we saying the so far CRX drivers just aren't up to it? Or could the shorter wheel base actually be a detriment to the handling?

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:48 pm
by Steve Ekstrand
CRX drivers aren't doing it. The competition is no where near as deep. Sorry, Mr. King.

Re: 2010 Pax/RTP indexes released!

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:45 am
by Marshall Grice
Craig Naylor wrote:Or could the shorter wheel base actually be a detriment to the handling?
you mean transferring weight off the drive wheels makes a car slower? :o